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CommandPrompt, correct. They can think all they want. If they think that I am an ugly freak with a funny accent they can think all they want. However, when they make me depressed every day by _expressing_ their thoughts via harassing behaviour and speech that's not acceptable, not legal and
violates Human Rights Code of Ontario.
CommandPrompt, they take a way my right for pleasant workplace environment.
CommandPrompt, I need to make money. I do my job better then they do it. However, my duties do not include a "clown" position.
"They have an opinion that due to my birth defect I am not good enough to be treated with respect"
CommandPrompt, same way I can put that it's my opinion that you should not live thus I am free to kill you.
no, everyone is entitled to their opinion, the rights you give, are the ones you get
so, taking away someone's right to their opinion or thinking or ideas, as messed up as they may be, takes also away oneself's
is it possible to disable the automatic top-spacing of the h2 element?
Opinions and thoughts are not actions. And those are the actions that I oppose.
legolas558
ok thanks, that will help
CommandPrompt, I wrote some code. You may think "this code is useless", no harm done there. However, you may take an _action_ and delete that code because in your opinion it is useless, thus "harming" me.
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CommandPrompt, if a person would talk to me, or come in interaction via other ways and decide that I am mentally unstable and apparently is a drug user is one thing. When some person goes around and says "You know what, that dude smokes crack" that's another thing, it's harassment, especially
because it is not true.
well, yes and .. no
What is the no?
CommandPrompt, don't forget that we are talking about a workplace environment.
their talking about you being this or that to others, is within their choice of acquainting or relating to others
CommandPrompt, "Harassment refers to comments or actions that are unwelcome or should be known to be unwelcome. Every person has the right to be free from humiliating or annoying behaviour that is based on one or more grounds in the Code."
copy/paste from "Human Rights in Work Place"
(tm)
Code being "Ontario Human Rights Code"
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Zoffix, you tried going to the police if its that serious?
fruitycube, it's not "that" serious. I wrote an e-mail to warehouse manager, he will sort everything out.
CommandPrompt, it's one thing when your buddies talk shit about you. It's another thing when your co-worker talks shit about you to your bosses since by doing so she or he diminishes your chances of getting raises and promotions.
Hopefully he does. It's a shame when people can be so stupid - how old are they?
18-27
Wow, immature
and if you're dealing with 'supervisor' who listen to these people without verifying, they don't seem worth the hassle working for :|
One of them is a supervisor.
CommandPrompt, it's not about "verifying". You see the guy work good.. you give him a promotion and now he works as a supervisor. You see the guy work good but entire building has an opinion that he smokes crack and has mental problems, you already would think twice and perhaps evaluate that
person since having a mental crack head on a supervisor position might lead to bad things happening.
You just have to take it to the highest level, if the boss/owner/CEO (whatever you want to call him) doesn't do anything about it, then you can get the law involved and start legal proceedings
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hehe
CommandPrompt, there is no point in arguing this.. It's a freakin' law
you can, mildly and gently, verbally address it, to your supervisor, not written yet, but that will be about it, if he doesn't do much about it, then just let it be, you know where he stands, and no worth more addressing it with him
well
is more than a legal matter
legally, you were found innocent from being a child molester
Just let it be? If the man is being harassed - it's a break of his basic human right, in it's simplest term, it's bullying.
practically, your booking stays ON and people do misread it and will label you
even though a judge, and counsels and jury found you no guilty
you dunno how many folks are there, how much consentment is there, how many supers know already, he heard it, they'd know it too, yet they haven't done anything
Exactly, so take it to the next level
It is a fairly serious situation, you can't just go "Oh well, nothing I can do", and give up
CommandPrompt, supervisor is one of the harassers. Warehouse manager is usually there most of the time. E-mails are a preferred by him way to talk to you on different matters. Thus I wrote him an e-mail.
right, go over your super head, you'll be addressed back to your area supervisor, who will know and may not understand and may see it as superseding him
Why would be be addressed back to the area supervisor, you don't know that
*he
actually, I do know that
complaints and grievances are addressed to the area manager
Sorry, I didn't know you tried this before
shipping dept's, are addressed to the shipping manager, and so on
CommandPrompt, we don't have an area manager. Warehouse manager is the direct boss of that harassing supervisor and he gives him instructions daily.
nope, is standard work procedure
CommandPrompt, "A person who is a target of harassment may be in a vulnerable situation. Therefore, there is no requirement that he or she formally object to the behaviour before a violation of the Code can be considered to have taken place, where the conduct is or should have been known to
be unwelcome."
[Human Rights At Work]
Well if there is no way anyone in the company will listen to him.. and he has written proof (emails) of him notifying the supervisors of the situation - then it's time to seek legal advice.
I think superseeding his supervisor is the least of his worries right now
Meh.. I'll come in today, explain in detail wtf is up with these people, he'll talk to supers and after that hopefully those assholes will leave me and that other guy alone.
Zoffix, lets hope so.
.. hehehh
It's a shame that a situation like this even came about
it doesn't work that simple
am afraid :|
who are you talking to?
is simpler to sort it out with the actual guy, one on one
100% doenst work but width: 100% does? anyone want to take a guess at why?
both of you :P
How does seeking legal advice not work
ArthurBrazil, learn how percentages work for `height`
ohhh legal advice.... .....
It's obvious the web hosting company don't want to know, you admitted that yourself
]css height @ ArthurBrazil
css height: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/visudet.html#propdef-height
gracias
well, yes, legal advice will work, since attorneys will go above the warehouse manager
CommandPrompt, .. it's not one guy, it's every person in the warehouse besides warehouse manager.
A last resort I know, but if Zoffix's current attempts at informing the supervisors of the situation don't work, it will have to be done.
and likely the warehouse manager knows it too
CommandPrompt, knows what?
What's going on
if you know it, and everyone as you said, he knows it too
I don't think so. He would never allow something like this.
yet hasn't done anything
well
he wouldn't Admit to let 'sleeping dogs lie'
Ah.. this is a pointless conversation.
hehehe
I don't understand what you are trying to prove to me CommandPrompt
I guess you are just bored
FYI, where I work, there's worker's comp stuff material I do go through
]mem quiz @ CommandPrompt
http://www.funny-games.biz/theimpossiblequiz.html
At the end of the day, you've been harrassed and bullied - It's a breach of your human rights - Talk to your Warehouse manager, if that doesn't work - then seek legal advice.
thus, your case, I've read it several times by now
CommandPrompt, it's in warehouse manager's interest to sort it out, otherwise if he won't do anything and I take a legal action HE will be suited as well.
just make sure you have your conversations with your superiors in writing
you can't ask your coworkers to change their mind, overnight, they may chill their ignorance, that doesn't mean the harrassment won't modify or morph, it just won't be verbal
That may be so, but it doesn't make it right. The management should introduce punishment for any further harassment etc
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Hello! How can I position an h1 behind a image?
CommandPrompt, hey, it's fine with me. As long as I don't hear those fucked up jokes about my disability and accent I don't give a damn what they do there.
CommandPrompt, with what you are saying "Ohh.. they won't change, what you are doing is useless"
CommandPrompt, You know what it is? It's not *you* who doesn't want to go to work because he knows that he will be constantly in a depressing situation.\
relying someone in the company will bother to nodge already-scanned-employed individuals working there for who knwos how long
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Austy, why?
well
hehehe
So, if images are turned off..
]ir @ Austy
ir: www.mezzoblue.com/tests/revised-image-replacement/
is not quite like so
CommandPrompt, so what IS so?
So the fact money has been spent training and employing these people means they are invulnerable to punishment/sacking...?
CommandPrompt, I wrote an e-mail addressing the issue to my boss. Now you for half an hour were trying to prove me that I am not being harassed and now you are trying to prove me that what I did is absolutely useless.
I had a super, she was rather overworked, I knew everyone knew she was somewhat off often, nothing new, rather proficient at her work, her super would always leave it alone ^_^ hehee, I always took it verbally with her
:/
It's not useless at all, it's a first step that must be taken. If this doesn't work, you take it to the next level.. it's a slow task but one that must be done in order
Sure.
it didn't go rather pleasant for her at times, I just addressed things objectively, in the end, she was pretty much very burned out :|
Just keep your chin up, we all know these people are ignorant immature ******, they won't go anywhere in life. Just wait for your moment
no, the fact money has been spent training and employing, keeps the department in gear, disturbing it, disturbs production when it may come at the expense of terminations, or people leaving as a resulf of it
It doesn't matter how you word it, you're saying these people shouldn't be reprimanded because it would lose the company money.
and some managers, see it unfortunately from the production view, for the income to be obtained, and lose sight of the employees, who they're supposed to be helpiing
CommandPrompt, dude, nothing will be "disturbed" if my warehouse manager will tell supers to tell employees that making fun of people is harassment.
no, I'm saying that some managers do see it from the production issue point of view
ok well if that is the case, then let Zoffix take it up with his manager, and then legal action if necessary - These people aren't invunerable.
And also, if that is true - then the managers are just as bad
for all we know, your warehouse manaager knows it
CommandPrompt, I don't think so. This doesn't happen when he is around.
yep, I agree, which is what I'm addressing to Zoffix
CommandPrompt, I don't see where you even got this idea
I thought you said he was always around
huh?
No
how often is he there?
every other 6hrs?
He's office is in the warehouse. Sometimes he's in the office, sometimes he is elsewhere, sometimes he is in shipping with us, and that's when no harassment is going on.
s/^He's/His/;
soooo
soo
You have no clue about that guy.. I do
he's there ... about around 4hrs off a day shift
You can't say "fuck" or "damn" around that guy.
more or less, and some 4 or 3 hrs of the swing shift
Not every day
aggrr
right
What's your point?
not everyday
soemting like 3 days a week
or 4 some weeks
He knows it or not it's irrelevant.
actually it's
Why?
he knows it, he's in the responsibility to do something about it
And?
without being approached
... hehehe
If he doesn't take any action, he will get sued. Are you are saying "uu, he knows it already, so you should be taking this to authorities right away"?
fuck and damn, is status quo in shipping =P and receiving depts
lol
fuck and damn on such scenario is like 'tomatoes' and potatoes
well, gonna go and lay down for half an hour before work.
whats the dpi equivelent to font size 10 and 12?
:|
O.o
What's the meaning of the universe?
42
42 isnt size 10 though
What is "size 10"?
font size 10 in wind0ze
I don't know what you are talking about.
lol
perlbot, lol
what the fuck is so funny?
you know in "nearly" ever windows app theres a font size....
Giddion55, no I don;t
1) Use Windows. 2) Use whatever application you are talking about. Neither of those are true.
so never in your life have you used microsoft word?
No.
ow
wow
im impressed
the Point size is dependent on DPI. 72pt = 1inch. 72dpi means a 72pt font is 72pixels tall
how is * { } supported throughout browsers?
everything as far as I know
staaky
graphikz
tnx
how can you set a div to be a fixed height and width regardless of where there is anything inside it?
]css min-height @ wanderingii
css min-height: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/visudet.html#propdef-min-height
]css min-width @ wanderingii
css min-width: http://w3.org/TR/CSS21/visudet.html#propdef-min-width
]ie max-width
ie max-width: www.doxdesk.com/software/js/minmax.html , www.svendtofte.com/code/max_width_in_ie/
thanks ill try it now
no no joy
Browser?
f
its fine in ie
]]]min-height
min-height http://www.webdevout.net/browser-support-css#support-css2propsbasic-minheight (IE 6: N) (IE 7:37.5%) (FF 1.5: Y) (FF 2: Y) (Opera 8.5:75%) (Opera 9:75%) (Konqueror 3.5: ?) (Safari 2:
?))
So it's fine in a browser which doesn't support it but broken in one which does
im using ie7
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