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aha, head seems to do the job - this is what i wanted: "last | grep 'system boot' | head -n 5"
the "grep -m 5" doesnt work or i am using it wrong?

hmm...

hey gurus has there been any problems with ndiswrapper on F7?? ever since I upgraded to F7 my wifi hasnt worked.

looks like the man page supports the -m 5 = " | head -5 " assertion

When grep stops after NUM matching lines, it outputs any trailing context lines.

has anyone ever worked on a headless terminal? or that is the closest description I can give it

/server irc.tveps.net

a "headless terminal" isn't that an oxymoron?

EvilBob, i believe so

I promise you, I've done it :-p

LOL
a box with out a video card that you ssh into

gimme a site where I can host a pic and I'll show

but that pretty much disqualifies it as a terminal

no.....I mean, I'm logged into a box and it doesn't show on that box anyone is logged in

bayimg.com

thank you CountX

root?

how do I upgrade from FC5 to F7 if I don't have a dvd reader?

you dont?

use the cd's

np

boot.iso and a network instal
l

http://bayimg.com/AaEdIaaBJ

EvilBob, where do I get that iso? I've never installed fedora b4

is there a way in fedora's installer to specify more dtailed partitioning info? specifcally, i want to speficy block sizes, and the number of blocks in a partition. not just 100MB or other vaguery

you should read the install guide
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/

yes

hehe how/

double click on the entry "Empty space" in the partitioning screen, instead of clicking new
http://bayimg.com/AaEdIaaBJ

drbd acts all funny with different sized target partitions

frozty_sa, doesn't make sense to me

I can tell you how to do it, if you want :-p

ahh. this is FC6 (should have said this earlier) all i see for options on the partitioning page is "Remove all and create default|Remove linux parts and create default|Use free space and create default|Custom layout"
custom layout doesn't allow me to specify much custom detail

frozty_sa, what is the purpose of it?

I dunno....being weird?
it happened purely by accident, mind

maybe i'm missing something obvious though

custom layout

EvilBob, isn't there a dist upgrade option in yum?

no

isn't there any way I can do it from cli?

abusing yum in that way is not suggested by anyone sane

how is that abuse?\

it is not what yum was designed for

works perfect in ubuntu, apt-get dist-upgrade

to many DB writes and such.

so go use ubuntu

i prefer apt to be honst alwyas have.. but apt has similar db problems

I do on my systems, this is a system at work

MTecknology, we know

how can I do the equivilant in FC5?

you can't

what command would i use to remove "welcome" and "home" from "welcome to my home" using the numerical character position? ie take out character 0-6 and 13-17 ?

MTecknology, possible for those familiar with it, otherwise you don't

you don't know how to use google and I am not going to tell you how to FUBAR your system

if you really want to do it that way, upgrade fc5 to fc6, and then fc6 to f7

fc6-f7 is really not suggested

I know

Perhaps cut?

nah I wouldnt do that.

frozty_sa, i don't care how I go about it, I just need to get it done - I've gotten enough flames in here for still using FC5

then why didyou suggest it

just stick with fc6

but if he wants an upgrade, then there is an option for him

who cares about flames.. sheesh

use the damn DVD
or the boot.iso

true dont be cheap go buy a DVD rom drive.

I can't use the damned dvd - i said that

You can boot from a USB stick

no

then use the damned boot.iso

Or PXE/net install, no disk necessary.

i couldnt get that to work.

yeah PXE works

speaking of which, how do I make fedora install boot from a usb stick? ricky

but than again Im brain dead.

to lazy to read so he can't do anything

ricky, you know of a good guide for doing that?

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f7/en_US/sn-making-media.html

see can't even use google

gotta love fedora solved..

you are welcome

they tell you everything from installing it to giving birth to it. LOL
except when ndiswrapper doesnt work anymore.

http://www.fedorasolved.com/

yeah the guy who ran that moved on

yah it is..

google = tried for a while but all instructions I ended up with weren't truly specific and/or detailed (or new)

thanks ricky, that's what i was looking for

Anyone know the best ipod management tool in Fedora?

As mentioned, http://www.fedorasolved.org/installation-solutions/installing-fedora-using-pxe-images/

um

Not really using PXE, but looks easier.

hi

yah I read that. i think its a hardware issue on my system

Hi!

ricky, will that hurt my system, or is it an actual upgrade?

what?

is fedora core the right secure linux web hosting operating system for me? i just got a new computer with windows vista on it (my old one had ubuntu linux), and im still trying to decide which distrobution im going to get.

It won't hurt your system if you follow it properly.

Doug52392, short answer yes

i want one that is good for home and server use

ricky, i just wanted to make sure it won't erase anything

Doug52392, yes

first delete teh windows partition

If you want the latest and greatest, then yes. But just know, Fedora has a short dev cycle and you'll be upgrading to the next release of Fedora at least once a year.

but first leave the channel then come back after windblows is gone. LOL

snarkster, now dont get nasty

hi, is there in F7 repo app to handle radio FM with btv cards ?

lol

kidding really just kidding

does it dual boot ok with vista?

yes it does

Yup, it should.

is that a windows question??

snarkster, has windows installed too

hmm i just use qemu emulated for a very few things.
like password protected rars.

i tried debian today, it didnt even install right, and crashed my MBR. (good thing the restore CD works, i got the windows bootloader back without even formatting)

Before doing any upgrade you should back up your data

does anyone know a good command to split a large text file into parts, (just 1 word per line no formatting)

EvilBob, yup... I was getting flamed pretty bad when I was asking how to do upgrades from FC5
to do backups*

which version do i download? i have a intel processor

the only sane way to upgrade IMO is to use the anaconda installer
what model intel processor?

EvilBob, which isn't an option i guess... I haven't found the iso you were talking about

pentium d

it is if you would just shut the hell up and read what people are saying to you
read the install guide

larer

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/

I just plugged in my ipod to F7 and it was automounted at computer/// but now I can't unmount it so that I can try to remount it with gtkpod. Anyone know what I should try?

EvilBob, I've been looking through that

is it a little more advanced than distros like ubuntu?

I right click on it in the file browser and click "umount" but it says it can't cause it is still in use, but nothing is using it.

EvilBob, do I want Live CD or Minimal CD boot media?
nvm
it's not like gentoo then

will my Linksys WAP54G PCI wireless card work? it doesnt in other distros because it has a RaLink Rt61 chipset

I doubt it Doug52392 but f7 supposedly does support that chipset

EvilBob, fedora/linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/images/boot.iso - where's the site i dload from?

Doug52392, I picked up a us robotics 5422 usb dongle and it works great

will my wireless card work OK?

Finally found the damned dload link

is f7 the newest?

yes
Doug52392, look fedora is pretty much the top rung on the linux ladder but u use what you want to.

sorry was on the phone

i found it finally

glad you found it

and burned it
here we go....

Good luck

which one do i download?

i could have just threw in a dvd reader that we have if the server wasn't an old rackmount

what do you mean Doug52392 ?

where do i download the installer dvd or cd?

download the DVD

fedora.org as far as I know

fedoraproject.org
fedora.org is someone else

and make sure you get the version thats right for your hardware
fedora.org is someone else??

always has been

isnt fedora made by the same people who make red hat?

Er.. Fedora on a server?

yes

ricky, again... i woulda chose ubuntu myself

You don't mind updating it every 13 months or so for security fixes, etc.?

well in a manner of speaking Doug52392

Fedora is a commmunity project sponsored by Red Hat

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f7/en_US/sn-http-install-settings.html
this is where i'm at
what ip do i want to use?

The Fedora Project does have a number of RH employees, but it also has quite a few external people as well.

Choose a mirror: http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/7/

I can't get the TCP/IP configuration now!!!

where is the ISO DVD file?

In BitTorrent.

i dont like p2p programs, the upload rate is always higher than the download rate

SO.... I'll bet I'm going to get to dload all 5 CD's and burn them, then get to upgrade that way

So?
As long as the download rate is high...

where can i find official fedora 7 dvd labels

The wiki.

can i do migration, save/restore of fully virtualized guests?

14kbps
9kbps

"2400bps sucks" -- V.bis and Baudhead

11kbps download speed for the DVD, on a T3 connection
how should i partition it once i install it?

Doug52392, The word pathetic springs to mind. Diod you look at the Mirror list?
Doug52392, Auto partition. Accept defaults.

Did you open the proper port for it?

yes, its working ok now
700...600...500kbps

hi guys, i am having issues getting a raid0 md device to start up correctly
mdadm is saying that the device is active but not started
i cannot start it
and if i try to stop it, its saying that the device is still in use

Doug52392, http://docs.fedoraproject.org/ . Come back after refering to these docs there - especialy the Install Guide.

lsof doesn't show anybody using it
anybody good at mdadm can be of any help ?

how do I find the file that is running from a pid?

Look under /proc.

lsof | grep xxxx

thanks, I can see the files it uses that are loading into memory, which line would I see as the file actually running that is using al lthese other programs?

how do i auto start conky? do i have to write a script for /etc/init.d/ ?

you get that from ps
ps awx | grep xxx
where xxx is the PID of your process

ok all ... i am a retard, as im sure you're all aware ... the reason that it wasnt working with the chkconfig method is becasue i forgot to chmod +x so that it could even run
so its all set now !!!

your desktop environment should have a facility for autostarting apps
which DE are you using?

generalhan, gj retart

i know !!

generalhan, tftp sequel

everything is still not perfect however ... but im glad i got that taken care of
the only thing i have to figure out now is why eth0 wont come up on boot. it says failed no link present durring the boot. but as soon as it finishes the boot i just type in ifup eth0 and it works everytime ... i wonder why it fails at every boot ?

wolsni, fluxbox
i am guessing its in the startup file lol
brb

i think that's right

is there a file that i can look at to see the results of my last boot ? like all the scritps it ran and which ones succeeded and which ones failed ?
i saw them as they were scrolling by, but i want to see them stationary !

dmesg

thanks

/var/log/boot.log

i tried boot.log but didnt get the information from it that i was looking for

hello, i'm getting dependencie issue's whilst installing .rpm's generated by ATI's --buildpkg 8.39.4? http://rafb.net/p/oxJ03p23.html

what are you looking for?

can any1 help

Don't use that. Use livna's packages instead.

didnt know livna had 1

ifup eth0 is failing at every boot. and an initscript that im running scrolls by so fast that i cant see if its failing and why if it is failing

well, you're out of luck there I guess. initscripts are a little problematic wrt. logging.
try ifup eth0 from a console and see

it works once the system has booted.
but it fails when its attempted at boot

the driver in livna is 8.36.5, i need 8.39.4 no worrys

They must still be working on it then. It should be ready soonish.

sweet

dude
rotisserie chicken... or doritos. tough choice.

Chicken.

sun chips are so good
ivazquez; you want to play NWN, don't you? eh? eh? yeah?

I've never tried it.
And TBH, I don't feel like a multi-gigabyte DL right now.

it's not free
besides, multiplayer has a login and cdkey check

http://generalhan.pastebin.ca/633778 this is my last boot where it starts show things about eth0 ... does that look normal to you ? i have got to figure out why eth0 fails to come up at every boot

ivazquez; the full game is ~$30 USD (expansions, etc included)
anyway, just was curious

generalhan, do you have macs on the lan?

no
NEVER !

generalhan, you can disable that avahi thing then

ok ! you think that might effect the eth0 somehow ?

maybe

I had some awesome Broasted Chicken yesterday

i'm having awesome sun chips now

anyone know how I can prevent "yum info" command from croaking when there is a copyright symbol in the description of the package?

Update your yum.

file a bug?

It's been filed and fixed.

yum is latest version

ic

rpm -q yum

hlewis, fixed. 'yum info cups' doesn't spew chunks anymore.

yum-3.2.1-1.fc7

chicken it is. /me runs away

Hrm. That *should* be fine. echo ${LANG}

it only seems to give an error when cups is installed. I removed it and yum info cups worked

Interesting.
Okay, log a bug, giving that specific detail.

OK

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9229/nwnw00ttg4.jpg
(top part)

downhillgames, what game is that?

membrive; neverwinter nights
native for linux

ok ty

mmhmm, it's not super expensive and still coming out with new content

Is there an ltsp user here?

I like Lineage 2, but the problem is that L2 haven't native client, and is hard run it with wine/wineX

NWN is more fun than WoW, imo. less boring spots to it
it's not quite mmo but if you get an active server there isn't much boredum

I dont like wow

me either

I tried to play but I dont reached 5 lvl
http://picasaweb.google.com/membrive/Lineage2 some pics about my char in l2

i had a lvl 25 Warlock but he was boring

I notice there is an iwl4965-firmware component listed in bugzilla but the package isn't avalible in any repo and doesn't show in koji should I file my bug that the 4965 card isn't recognized by F7 against it or the iwlwifi-firmware package?

Talk to EvilBob.

EvilBob, ping ;-)

membrive; i had no idea picasaweb existed! sweet!

looks like yum is fixed in yum-3.2.2-1.fc7 which is in testing

Okay, good to know.

guess I should have looked at bugzilla first :-)

Not enough people do.

i cant find documentation on how to disable it completely ... i found the config file where i can just disable IPv6

only for win... But well I use picasaweb as image hosting

I could've sworn that Google has a version for Linux...

Picasa runs on Linux. . .

membrive; picasa is on linux too

get the ucode from intellinuxwireless.org

I didnt know rharrison

its not as nice as digikam but hey...

ivazquez; they even put it in a repo
because google 3s us

EvilBob, are the atrpms good?

never

and my question is to which bugzilla component do I post my bug that the firmware isn't included?

Distribution

I think it is being handled, there is a iwl4965-firmware package up for review

OK, that's why I don't see it in koji then
but don't bother with the atrpms packages?

I would not suggest anyone but Axel Thimm ever touch atRPMs

at one time that was the only place you could get madwifi - I'm glad livna started hosting it
unfortunately they don't have packages for 2.6.22 yet

at one time you could only get black tar heroin in the worst parts of town also

:-)

yeah, I wish he had a "clean" repo that didn't replace things.

yeah does not want to play nice with others, big brain and bigger ego from my experience

Oh, I'm on the EPEL list...

so you know what i am talking about

yeah, that seemed to go down poorly

"localhost dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67" is this trying to find a DHCP server on the 255.255.255.255 subnet ?

the package uses alternatives?
which of these do I want to rebuild the with or without alternatives one?

the ucode is just a file

I figured I'd try the package under review
at thats why I'm confused about the package using alternatives

no. on the local subnet

just grab the tarball, open it and mv the file to /lib/firmware path may be wrong

hmm ... i cannot get eth0 to work on boot ... this is sooo strange. ive never had so many issues with an install before

I just figure I'd help with testing

sure
did you install or upgrade?

install
FC7x_64 DVD

What chipset is in the card?

ok, thanks EvilBob I'll post any problems I have with the package to the review
for now... home

hi all, got a quick non-fedora question -- i just got this mobo -- the thing will just start and stop over and over when i have the 'cpupw' vcore power plugged in..
and ideas?

its a Tigon3

and the driver it should be using is the tg3?

yes

hello

and it is not working in what way?

im trying to change my kernel to 2.6.21-1.3228.fc7 but i dont know how :/

on boot it fails when it trys the ifup eth0. but as soon as it finishes the boot i can run ifup eth0 from term and it works immediately

I have a similar issue here with my iwl4965 wireless

is it installed yet? if not run yum install kernel-2.6.21-1.3228.fc7

I have not found a solution yet

i dont understand ... i have never seen this before ... and it means that this initscript that i have been working with is pointless because it cant load if eth0 is down

it said Nothing to do.

"nothing to do?" A: When yum reports "nothing to do" what it's really saying is that the "package may already be installed" (or it doesn't exist), so there's nothing for it to do. (ask directly: rpm -q package).

check /etc/grub.conf and see if it is listed there

rpm -q kernel

what if i tried to put 'ifup eth0' into an initscript that runs at S99 or something like that ?
you ever tried something like that ?

I would give it a shot
it can't hurt anything

... ok lets see what happens !

it is a bit hackish however but you knew that

it is not listen there

i know it sux ... but im looking for whatever will make this work

is it listed when you run rpm -q kernel?

no

then it isn't installed

I bet it would not install becaus ethey already have a newer kernel installed

err i need that kernel for madwifi tho :/

we should see the output of the "rpm -q kernel"

[plex0r@plex0r-pc ~]$ rpm -q kernel
kernel-2.6.21-1.3194.fc7
kernel-2.6.22.1-27.fc7

see
you will need to boot to the older kernel
remove the newer

boot to 3194, remove the 2.6.22 and then install

then install the one you want

how do i remove the other?

rpm -e kernel-2.6.22.1-27.fc7

im on the 3194 now

or "yum remove kernel-2.6.22.1-27.fc7"

or yum remove kernel-2.6.22.1-27.fc7
we are typing the same stuff so I'll let EvilBob take it from here :-)

ok its removed

no run the install command that hlewis gave you before
s/no/now

[root@plex0r-pc plex0r]# yum install kernel-2.6.21-1.3228.fc7
Loading "installonlyn" plugin
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Nothing to do
[root@plex0r-pc plex0r]#

yum clean all

ok done that
now its downloading
oh wait..
i thought it was but its not
lol

membrive; http://picasaweb.google.com/downhillgames

great ... so i put it in an initscript .. and watch the boot ... of course it actually works the first time it attempts it this time ... and then when it runs the script it fails ... i may set this server on fire !!!

man this sucks

hold on

: ok

it could be that file is not on some of the mirrors still

ahh i see

membrive; back to playing WoW

what version was it?

yum info doesn't whow it

kernel-2.6.21-1.3228.fc7

s/whow/show/

downhillgames, wow? no thx XD

Im running a fairly new install of FC7 and Ive noticed "modprobe -q" is running all the time. and its 100% CPU usage most of that time. anyone know what thats about ?

download it here http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=8692

downhillgames, I go to sleep now, cya tomorrow :P

then "yum localinstall path/to/file"

at a guess, it loaded a module and something went wrong in the module's init function

do i need to download all those?

ah

no only the one you need

I have a bad feeling it could be nvidia mod

the module name should be listed on the modprobe command line

lsmod ?
I have a huge amount of modules loaded. Any idea how I might find which one is causing the problems ?~

ps $(pgrep modprobe)

/sbin/modprobe -q --
where is the config which loads all these crazy modules running ?
I see a few in /etc/modprobe.d but theres a lot more loaded than specified in that file

which script is run to attempt the ifup eth0 ? ... i think that if i just push that to a higher number in the run order that it will fix everything

network?

i thought so ... but i wanted to be sure before i started messing with more things that i could screw up
so if that works for me ... is it possible that it will work for your wireless doing the same thing ?

where is the list of modules set to load on boot?
theres a lot in here I really dont need
will I have to build my own kernel to get rid of these excess loaded modules ?

you can blacklist modules

what modules are there that you THINK you don't need?

bluetooth, floppy, etc
basically Im going to try remove them all until I find which one is causing modprobe to run constantly

anyone know how to add downloads to sourceforge?

can you think of a better way ?

anyone know how to add download releases to a sourceforge project?

ummm maybe ask sourceforge?

hi guys, im a lttle stuck, i setup an imap account in evolution and now i cant use evolution anymore cause it wont stop prompting me for a password

nobody there

its pretty straight forward..

I havent been able to find out how

brb reboot

admin menu, "file release" and then create release, then you upload a file to their release site and away you go

oh, didnt see that; thanks

actually, do the upload first iirc

Welcome to SourceForge support
lol

no dice ... i pushed it to 40 (rahter than 10) still didnt work ... then i pushed it to 60 and it didnt work ... i didnt want to go any further than that incase something else was relying on that

Timidity doesn't seem to be able to start esd.

it would appear the nvidia module is causing modprobe to get stuck on 100% cpu uage

lower is earlier

dont suppose anyone has a few wise gems as to the reason

but its only every other time now that it doesnt work ... and adding it to a sscript at 99 doesnt always work either it seems completely random

[achtung@localhost Desktop]$ timidity coming.mid
No such file or directory
Couldn't open Enlightened sound daemon (`e')
That being what I get when I try to play a midi file.

daveStyle, what nvidia module

i know ... i was trying to push it later to see if it was just running too early and thats why it wouldnt work

ehh the graphics nvidia drivers

from

part of kmod-nvidia etc

from

which repo like ?

from
daveStyle, uname -r
daveStyle, rpm -q kivan-release

kivan?

daveStyle, rpm -q livna-release
rpm -q kmod-nvidia

I just set up all of my multimedia in 10 minutes with fedorasolved and fedora 7. Fedora has really come a long way

kmod-nvidia-100.14.11-1.2.6.21_1.3228.fcs kmod-nvidia-100.14.11-1.2.6.22.1_27.fc7

You are welcome

If i have two physical drives, can I mount them to the same directory?

any idea ?

fcs?
daveStyle, answer the rest of my questions

6 EDT 2007 i686 i686 i386

back in the day we smoked the piece pipe if you know that I mean...

livna-release-7-2

yum -d 0 list kmod-nvidia

im on it

daveStyle, what video card

GeForce 7600 GS

robbins876, why'd you wanna do that? they'd clobber each other.

paste the output of ls /etc/yum.repos.d/

k
http://rafb.net/p/s22cwx45.html

good God what a mess

those repo's arent all enabled

we hope not
cat atrpms.repo cat livna.repo cat freshrpms.repo
howdy opsec

i'm thinking about putting in a request to order a scsi dvd reader for our rackmount server, I need to know two things first. 1. Is it safe to use the dvd to upgrade from FC5 to F7? and 2. Is Fedora ever going to come with a safe cli upgrade option?

can anyone tell me how to "clean" my XFS partition?

MTecknology, not that we can see

using the DVD is the safest upgrade method

Structure needs cleaning"

VileGent, why?

fedora isnt meant for production environments

google either doesn't know or just doesn't care to help me. :o

there was actually some talk earlier about how that could happen, maybe for F8
errr
F9

so therefore why is it needed in the end

http://rafb.net/p/Wxjd1f20.html

yep
bbl

EvilBob, the idea would be doing it through yum or something similar?

so why do you need all of those repos

I was looking for a few packages which I figured might be in one of them. (never found it btw)

a mix of existing and new tools

i tried convincing them to convert to Ubuntu because apt-get -c dist-upgrade is all that's needed to do a complete upgrade
but if F8 or F9 is going to have it i might stop pushing

MTecknology, you should get them to install centos instead

you think kmod-nvidia installed from the /wrong/ repo or something ?

so you dont have to keep fighting this every year

just putting some ideas on the drawing board is as far as it got

when I run a yum update I get the following two problems and I dunno what I can do about them....can anyone help? Error: Package kudzu needs kernel 2.6.13, this is not available. and Error: Package hal needs kernel 2.6.15, this is not available.

anyone now if its possible to get activesync 4.5 to work through wine?

whizndr-, uname -r

[root@eclipse ~]# uname -r
2.6.17-1.2142_FC4

please help me? *soft weeping*

whizndr-, sorry fc4 is dead
and has been for almost a year

I'm trying to update
from 4 to 5 then 5 to 6

LOL, whizndr- is even more bad off than you are

you cant there isnt any

but I don't have physical access to the box

godaddy?

EvilBob, how so?

no it is a box I own...but it is coloed

she has FC4

hey I'm getting this as I'm trying to update :-)

whizndr-, ya.... it sucks hu

mmmhmmm

what is the release schedule for fedora anyway

whizndr-: where is it coloed ?

whizndr-, like i said it has been dead over a year

can I jump from 4 to 6...lol
at my works data center

whizndr-: yum is not intended for doing release - release+1 upGRADES

but that is about an 8 hour drive away

whizndr-: ah

ouch

ya I'm trying to follow the wiki

Your colo doesn't do KVM-over-IP?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq

darkfrog, why'd you choose xfs over ext3?

whizndr-: I don't care what the wiki says

zcat, for my myth box

darkfrog, how many terabytes?

no we have people there but I can't exactly ask them to upgrade my box for me

has my vast array of repo's possibly broke my install ?

daveStyle, good have
could have rather

zcat, got three 160gig drives and one 250gig in a LVM

anyone have experience syncing a nokia phone

zcat, just bought two 500gig drives to add to it.

daveStyle, at this point i think i would yum remove kmod-nvidia

I supposed I could install an older kernel

the command "yum clean all" clean up the downloaded packages that yum has downloaded or would i be commiting suicide to run it on a system that already works?

and reinstall it

darkfrog, didn't really need xfs then. xfs_check

zcat, know how to clean the fs?

which repo should I reinstall from ?

livan

zcat, says it can't find the command

livna
sorry anvil

they the best hosting going kinda thing ?
*newb*

darkfrog, install it. it's in a separate package just like the reiser utils are

uh oh

daveStyle, livna has always worked the most closely with the extras-everything repo

my ext3 partition is in read-only mode
...my drives are having issues. :o

what would be the downside to removing hal then reinstalling it?

I'll give it a shot so

what is the release schedule for fedora?

whizndr-: what would be the upside?

thanks

how do I make it writable again?

is there one?

you can lose all your drives

that would get rid of the two packages stopping the upgrade

brb

zcat, yum won't run until I make the drive writable

F8 Late Oct, F9 Early May

whizndr-, why not remove the 2 package

zcat, I think there has been some strange drive issues going on

rinse and repeat

already pushed back

it'll put it into rw mode, but why is it in ro mode?

cause I don't know what removing hal and kudzu will do to my system cause I don't specifically know what they do

EvilBob, and then F10 in Late Oct?

yeah Oct 31 and May 1 are the targets

ok

what? October? but I just got F7 booting on my laptop, I don't want to go through this all over again

so nov-june

so it's 6m release schedule?

LOL

yep

yes

evil_steve, you have a year

darkfrog, the xfs utils are available in rescue mode.

well nov 08

13 month total life

is there a petition i can sign for upgrade from cli being implemented?

following the theory that the even numbered releases are buggy and shouldn't be touched, eh

no

like I said some of the devs were looking at one way it could be done

i always thought it was the odd numbered ones that proved problematic...

Shihan, so my 5 to 7??

Shihan, i find they all have there unquie problems

none of the releases should be touched if you are scared of bugs, and don't look under your bed either

past performance is no guarantee of future results... or something

I'm in on those, then!

ne way - i'm going to try the upgrade with yum
ttyal

I hope you have better luck than me

oh, tbl, never jumped a release with an upgrade myself.

whizndr-, i won't
i lose irc with vpn connections though

you going from 5-6?
someone did setup split tunneling on their VPN
lol
did=didn't

what command do i use to cleanup the downloaded packages that yum downloaded when upgrading? or is there no reason to?

yum clean packages

thanks evilbob

read the yum man page

sorry, been about 8 months since last used linux. guess im off to read a couple of man pages lol. need to brush up.
thanks again guys

oh, btw, i've got a problem with evolution. i setup imap and gave it the wrong username... but now i cant change it... anyone know where i might edit a file to change the username?

yum remove evolution, it is evil

tell me about it

yum remove evolution && yum install thunderbird

+1

i've already got thunderbird up and running...

hi all. where is documented how to add a port range in the system-config-securitylevel-tui utility?
is this the correct way? 2110-2119:tcp

dahood use iptables
system-config-securitylevel has problems

VileGent, this utility is more convenient
VileGent, what problems?

not saving after you open the ports

I haven't noticed such behaviour until now, but i will keep it in mind. thanks

VileGent, the fix is STILL sitting in updates-testing... for 2 months. bleh

zcat i know
must not work

it works. the maintainer's just on vacation or something

the modprobe problem seems to be a bti better but its still using 100% every so often. Problem only occurs when X is running. Could you have a peek at my modules loaded and see can you spot anything that might be causing it ?
http://rafb.net/p/b4kOOn14.html

daveStyle; turn your head and cough
daveStyle; looks like your X has cancer :/
i'm sorry.

wouldnt surprize me

daveStyle, does your network use ip6

nope

Ok, maybe I'm not reading this right. Is there any way to make grep search for two strings within a file, so that if both strings are present, a match is considered?
I can't really determine based on the man page.

then turn it off

thats why I was wondering how do I disable some of those modules

I need to check to see if both string1 and string2 are in said file

on the same line?

n1

bye all

daveStyle, egrep 'foo|bar'
dan__t, ^

That is "and"?

on the same line?

No.
They will be on different lines.

then why not grep for each individually?

all done

hi

I could, but I wanted to do it in one pass.

im sick of cross-distro rpm specs now...

There's about 190k files to check, I'd rather just make one pass.

lol

i have been trying to get my specfile for oggconvert to work for both SUSE and Fedora

Yeah, good stuff.

but the changes were so much that the specfile was mutilated
it didnt match either one's requirements anymore...
so i split the specfile
and the suse specfile is stored in the OBS
while the fedora specfile (primary) remains on my system

I think I'm simply looking for an "inclusive match of two strings in a single file" option for grep

i just intalled fedora 7 linux, which went perfectly, the dual-boot works ok, and i like fedora. however i have one problem: my Linksys WMP54G, which has the RT61 chipset, does not work.

Doug52392, does it have a native driver?

is the blacklist file the best way to remove other unwanted modules ?

i have the CD that came with it, which has Windows drivers

ndiswrapper is usually your best bet
you can utilize those Windows drivers and have full support under NetworkManager with just a little work

"full"

daveStyle, the ipv6 is the only thing that stuck out
daveStyle, the ipv6 is the only thing that stuck out/

thanks man. I'll reboot and have a look

thats what i thought to, but i had the same problem in opensuse linux, ndiswrapper did not work. will it work in fedora?

yes

Lord_InuTaisho, ndiswrapper

it works great in fedora

What do you use to ass your RSS aggregator/podcast downloader?
s/ass/as/

I use liferea for RSS and rhythmbox for podcasts.

how do you do a yum localinstall with an unsigned package?

Hmm....I'm looking for an all-in-one solution.

you cant use yum for unsigned packages
you have to use double-clicking or rpm itself
well, wait
there is a switch

you shouldnt but you can

Anyone familiar with xnview?

turn off gpgcheck in yum.conf

i cant use the internet in linux until i get the wireless card working

yum --nogpgcheck localinstall rpmpackagename.rpm

thought you needed to use yum for it to end up in the database of installed packages for easy uninstallation.

I always love when you're going to a repo and it asks you to import a new key. I always just say yes, I mean would yum be sending me to bad repos?

Doug52392, then you need to download the rpms in windows and put them on a usb key and put them in linux
perlmonkey2, no

ok

So it is always safe to just import the new key?

Doug52392, i wouldnt suggest using rpm for the ndiswrapper to get internet working
unless you want to use the dkms version

perlmonkey2, if you trust the repo

but that requires downloading dkms rpms

I have no idea who the repo is.

then why is your yum have a repo for it
yum doesnt go anywhere you dont tell it to go

I have no idea. maybe fastestmirror sent me to it.

has nothing to do with it

anyone running compiz and vmware?

argh, easy_install for something from sourceforge that it can't find.

Doug52392, x86-32 or x86-64?

perlmonkey2, nexttime take a screenshot so we can see what you are talking about

I haven't see it since FC5. But what do I know, I can't even find the rss account editor in Thunderbird, and I'd swear it has one.

Reading http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/TTFQuery/1.0.0 Best match: TTFQuery 1.0.0 Downloading http://downloads.sourceforge.net/ttfquery/TTFQuery-1.0.0.zip?modtime=1079827200&big_mirror=0 error: Can't download http://downloads.sourceforge.net/ttfquery/TTFQuery-1.0.0.zip?modtime=1079827200&big_mirror=0: 404 Not Found
That mean it's gone from the website, yes?

yeah

which files should i use?

Trying to set up libprs for the ebook reader, guess it isn't going to work as easily as I'd hoped.

can i just download the ndiswrapper app from sourceforge?

use the livna rpms

when making a fulldisk partition using parted, '-1' is supposed to signify the end of the disk, and works interactively, but why not from the cmdline? "parted /dev/sdb mkpart primary 0 -1" fails even when -1 is properly escaped
uwhen making a fulldisk partition using parted, '-1' is supposed to signify the end of the disk, and works interactively, but why not from the cmdline? "parted /dev/sdb mkpart primary 0 -1" fails even when -1 is properly escaped/u
uuwhen making a fulldisk partition using parted, '-1' is supposed to signify the end of the disk, and works interactively, but why not from the cmdline? "parted /dev/sdb mkpart primary 0 -1" fails even when -1 is properly escaped/u/u
uuuwhen making a fulldisk partition using parted, '-1' is supposed to signify the end of the disk, and works interactively, but why not from the cmdline? "parted /dev/sdb mkpart primary 0 -1" fails even when -1 is properly escaped/u/u/u

suprised there is no package for this, seems like a pretty usefull ting to have, though I guess not too many people would need it.

Since there is no #podcast does anyone here know where I can find a podcast aggregator for accessible to Fedora? Something like Itunes where a ton of podcasts are listed for ready to subscribe to.
And I apparently have lost the ability to speak coherent English.

but the good news is that your Engrish is rock solid
Speaking of Engrish, Hi CrackJet

someone is getting some strange problems with last version kernel ?

I recommend just using whatever feedreader you can find and one of the online podcast search engines

Hi EvilBob

hello crachhead

sounds like a plan. thanks

Hi terrible VileGent

i wish songbird would get out of ... pre-alpha

sounds that last version kernel is so so ... and xsane .. etc etc

crackjet works fine for me

do you have scanner ?

yes

theres another one as well thats really popular and i cant remember the name

I have canon lide 25 .. but with new kernel ..
talking about 2.6.21-1.3228.fc7

complete sentences please
thats the old kernel

that is not the current kernel

no ?

yes

NO!

no notice update for me

YES!
we lied

yum - d 0 list kernel

oh damn

for no reason other than to mess with you

2.6.22.1-27.fc7

it is what they pay us for

2.6.22.1-33.fc7

not our fault you put exclude=kernel in your yum.conf

lol

you guys get paid?

nope
we wish

I get paid

something is worng with this command "yum - d 0 list kernel"

Not for this however

yum -d 0 list kernel

(bah. -1 is supposed to count back from the end of the disk in parted, but it doesn't work from the cmdline - only interactively. has to be a bug)

ok im going to try installing ndiswrapper. thanks!

i really wish i'd installed fc 32bit on the desktop

good luck or something

Shihan, whats stopping you

i'd have to reinstall... and that can wait for f8

ok

where can I download the FC7 kernel sources, patches, and config file?

there is no fc7

it works really wrll for the server... on the desktop i feel pain

i had x64 installed but had problems with vmware so i had to go back to the 32bit

I need to rebuild the kernel for the install

for what

and yes, there _is_ an fc7

strange .. I made "yum update" and everything is "No Packages marked for Update/Obsoletion"

no there isnt

Fedora Core 7

no such thing

CrocoJet, rpm -q kernel

http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora.html
F7

exactly

its even on the download page, displayed promimently
okay fine, be semantic
nonetheless

i've not had many issues with vmware... but firefox 32/64 is a little unfun

you can use nspluginwrapper

yes.. but i've not been able to get java working with the nspluginwrapper

okay now. where can I get the full patchset for the F7 kernel and its config file?
bokay now. where can I get the full patchset for the F7 kernel and its config file?/b

that will give a clue

I don't have Fedora installed, I can't use yum

cant help you then

I need to get the sources so that I _can_ install it
.....

mind you, when i ran up dsl-n inside vmware with f7 64bit it resulted in a host crash... so i guess that would be a problem

srpms
Shihan, i could nt get vmware to run in x64
but since then there has been several any-any new patches

okay, which version do I download?
what specific build sips with the F7 install media?
ships*

is there an easy way to remove gnome?

dont you want kernel-devel ?

morghanphoenix, nope

why that last version "2.6.22.1-33.fc7" is not available "http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/7/i386/" ?

Shihan, no

http://thelinuxmovement.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-compiz-fusion-effects.html

be cause it is not current

oh ok

(duh. fixed my stupid problem. had to pass -- to tell it to stop parsing -1 as an opt: parted -- /dev/sdb mkpart pri 0 -1 )

that is a testing kernel

CrocoJet, he got it out of developement

This'll be fun, only have a 10 gig partition for the os and it's damn near full now.

Updates-Testing

then I have last one stable "2.6.22.1-27.fc7" (official)

it is also http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=11747

look, I need the loop-aes driver to be present in the kernel image to do the install. I will be doing full-disk encryption, booting from USB media

I am using the -33 also

thus I need to rebuild the kernel with loop-aes support

ok

[Shiba], gl

I'm not asking for support. I just want to know where to get the kernel sources. Is that so hard?

it is stable here

-33 is good

[Shiba], i told you srpm

I feel miss Fc6

kernel.srpm

hi

is this the one I need?
http://mirror.cogentco.com/pub/linux/fedora/linux/releases/7/Fedora/source/SRPMS/kernel-2.6.21-1.3194.fc7.src.rpm
it looks like it

i need to compile LMMS from source so i can have the vst support with it, my only problem is that it cant detect my QT3 package

[Shiba], most likely

it says checking QTDIR... configure: error: *** QTDIR must be defined, or --with-qtdir option given

VileGent, do you think that F7 is more slow (gnome) than Fc6 ?

CrocoJet, nope

where can I get the .config used for the usb install image?

[Shiba], no idea

....
where can I get some answers? heh.

paradise
not here
lol

i thought kernel-devel was where the .config is?

Shihan, not for what he is doing

the one thing i've avoided like the plague for sometime though is recompiling a kernel

kernel-devel is needed for compiling kmods
Shihan, i have been happy with the stock fedora kernels

holy shit, there are 18 configurations

yes, this is true, but doesnt the kernel-devel .config encompass the "how we compile host our kernels" in terms of y/n/m

yes, that would be the .config

no the srpms does

really Fc6 is more stable F7 .... Am I wrong ?

i disagree

CrocoJet, you are treading thin ice tonight

whenever i need a new module for a kernel i prey it can compile as an external module.. plan b is "can i hack it to compile as external module".. plan c is "oh god no" ext3cow was a good example of plan b

too much updates ... F7

not enough

lol

i would have said centos myself

....
ext3cow .... as a module

uht oh

great idea.

no that is to closely related

10. Pick up gun
20. Shoot self in foot
30. goto 10

hehehe

ext3cow rawks...

not as an external module...

i've had no problems with it... so far...

you will, once you find out that you can't mount your root filesystem because the filesystem driver is on it...

oh... right, yeah, no, i dont use it for that kind of thing.. but you should be able to initrd that in there anyways

yes, well, so long as you're aware
its when you remember right after hitting 'reboot' that you decide to go commit suicide...
bits when you remember right after hitting 'reboot' that you decide to go commit suicide.../b

its great on file servers tho... "you want yesterdays file" go to ...@lotsofnumbers
lvm and snapshots for roots i think

"kernel-2.6.20-1.2962.fc6" if compared with "kernel-2.6.22.1-27.fc7". what is difference security and performance ?

2.1 revisions?

comparation

2.6.21 and earlier kernels has a vulnerbility

ok
no bad idea use Fc6
no = so
Fc6 is dead

nope

right ?

nope

nope ?

still going

how ?

it's dead in my eyes.

it doesnt get killed until F-8 comes out

fc5 is dead

miro... that was the media player i was thinking of earlier

2 releases +1 month

how do i get qt3 stuff for lmms?

but if you said "2.6.21 and earlier kernels has a vulnerbility" .. how will be stupid (donkey) to use ?

how will be?

go read the kernel changelog

go read up on the vulnerbilities

let me see

meoblast001, i think f7 has qt4
so you cant install qt3
stands corrected
qt-3.3.8-4.fc7

i need qt3
for lmms
i dont know how to get it

yeah, KDE3 is based on Qt3

qt3 is the default and there are add on qt4 packages

Fedora repositories are super empty

yum install qt

meoblast001, rpm -q qt

qt-3.3.8-4.fc7

ok that it
look for qtlibs

well LMMS wont install

where can i get kernel-2.621-1-3228? i cant find it anywhere

not a fedora problem

its on my laptop but the rpm isnt on my laptop

shadowarts, koji server

shadowarts, http://koji.fedoraproject.org/

VileGent, daMaestro thank you found it
2.6.22 hangs durning boot on this computer

Why does the fedora instance of Thunderbird not have the RSS account option?

maybe they want you to use liferea instead?

liferea hides the files in randomly named dirs. I want something that has a real repos dir so that I can point gtkpod at it.

perlmonkey2, it does
perlmonkey2, at least it did when i was using it, i've moved to using evolution

I'm reinstalling now to double check.

perlmonkey2, http://kb.mozillazine.org/RSS_basics_-_Thunderbird

stuff on koji isnt signed?

That's what I just checked to make sure Thunderbird *shoudl* have an rss option in create new accounts. Becuase my vanilla F7 thunderbird doens't.

http://pastebin.ca/633971

perlmonkey2, file a bugzilla
nn
meoblast001, not a fedora problem
meoblast001, rpm -q kdebase

VileGent package kdebase is not installed

ok, wow.. xchat freaked out on me
twice.

Glad to know xchat hates you as much as the other software
We like you however

arn't you just software, EvilBob ?

Come on guys Hug daMaestro
LOL
no I am annoyingware

ahh yes.... the only *well known* linux virus ;-)

? yum update...is there an auto update command so i can leave the room and not have to come back in and hut Y for yes

mange to read the man page?
-y
manage*
hmmm i think i need a coffee

what has replaced alacarte as the gnome menu editor in f7?

I think you need a latte daMaestro

Nothing. Alacarte is what is used by default.
(at least, that's how my Fedora 7 came installed...)
:]

yeah, i'm waiting for this spin to finish so i can boot test it and then i can leave to go get one

ah .. i guess it's installed by default now

what distro is more stable ?

install them and find out for yourself

RHEL

Debian ?

uh

RHEL

look where you are

Today when I rebooted my fedora 7 box it hung during the start of INIT on bootup. I rebooted it a few times an waited for it to continue on with no luck. after 3 hours the box came up

you really think people in here are going to recommend debian to you on the basis it's more stable?

I was not in front of it when it did... But I am trying to figure out what it was hung on after the INIT vXXX message started

sweet

c'mon ..

Has anyone seen this or recommend what file I should look at to try and understand what the issue is?
BTW the box is a AMD dual core system... It did not even show Entering runtime level message it was just hung at the INIT vXXX line

dmesg

what step did it hang on?

not on a step did not enter the runtime level

did you try booting another kernel

yup a previous version and same thing

cool

Do I need anything for VMWare in Fedora 7 other than the RPM?

serial number

lol

and that's it, right?

the any-any patch

any-any atch

lolz

patch

Yeah, that's what I was asking about
how do i get that patch?

i ithink you need the compiler and kernel sources

hammer if you are on x86_64
xinitd, kernel-devel, abunch of X stuff
google

pubs.vmare.com/server1
try #vmware too

looking at dmsg
Your BIOS doesn't leave a aperture memory hole
Please enable the IOMMU option in the BIOS setup
would that do it

is this a proliant ?

f7 +x64 + fat32 = pain as well, so avoid that
f7 + x64 + fat32 + vmware even

other things that pop out are
nope
it is a amd 64 dual core with a Asus mb
what do you think

How do I make Firefox my default browser? When I open i link from xchat it opens with Konqueror

or anyone

personally on F7 I am pimping KVM here, used VMware for years, I figure in about 6 months KVM will catch up
Never use AMD CPUs on ASUS motherboards

Are there any Linux VM's that will host Windoze?

well never use AMD CPUs
LOL

whats wrong with amd?

should I try and disable APCI

You know what they say, opinions are like ass holes, and I am one, I just don't like AMD

ahhh, fair enough
awestwell, have you got the log?

yup

whats the paste url again?

dont know
I can paste it if you want... WOuld love some hgelp

I thought Xen was native to the 2.6.22 kernel, so do I still need to install it in F7?

awestwell, yes, you can, but not in irc, you'll make ppl cranky... but theres a website you can paste things into.. i just cant remember the url
afaik, xen is a kernel unto itself...

ya i am doing a google for it now

.23 gets xen and lguest(rusty visor)

as in, you get 2.6.22-... and then theres 2.6.22-xen0
but i dont think they've done that for 2.6.22 for f7...

'
lo

So until then I need to yum install Xen?

or just use KVM if you have VT support in your CPU

http://pastebin.ca/

there is a virtualization quick start on the wiki

kvm aint bad *nod nod*

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/

altho, even without the kvm extensions, qemu isnt too bad either really

EvilBob I have no idea the pros and cons of xen or kvm. And until my new laptop I'm running on a P4-2.4ghz which I guess has HT.
checking the wiki now

yeah no VT support there you will need to use Xen

qemu supports non-vt as well...

qemu, kvm, xen. I have no idea which to use, although I guess kvm is out until I have HT.

perlmonkey2, http://giyf.us/virt+wiki

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Fedora7VirtQuickStart

kvm = qem + vt... in fact, qemu will startup regardless of wether kvm was loaded or not

cool, thanks

VT not HT

http://virt.kernelnewbies.org/TechComparison

Wow, looks like I'll end tonight at least a little knowledgabel about VM's.

http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/view/1089
I have posted the contents of dmesg

I had to use "acpi=off" and "noapic" during install. Will these effect my laptop in anyway?
Also, whenever I power down, my laptop goes all the way to system halted on the screen, but it never goes off and I have to hit my power button for it to go off.

yeah, thats what apci controls iirc (or part of what it does)
acpi

how do i get it back working?

you saw my url post correct

or will it have to remain disabled?
I also can't get my screen to go off, it just goes black but not off like it did in FC6

awestwall, cant see much wrong with the kernel startup... but im no expert either

ya thats what I thought
Anyone care to take a look
my dmesg is at http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/view/1089

[nix]: hmmm, if may have to remain disabled... when you say had do disable, what happens if it boots enabled?
acpi controlls the screen blanking as well iirc too

i never booted it with it enabled, not sure how to do that
well, I have to get it working somehow, because my computer is useless without it

got another question, why is there no mored 5 disk release anymore?

hmmm.. does your grub.conf have acpi=off in there somewhere?

i'll have to check, where do I find that?

/etc/grub.conf
you mean cdrom mteck?

ok, i've gotta boot into linux

ya

no idea.. i suspect its probably cause of the proliferation of dvd drives and pushing out the dvd and cdrom is proving a bit wastefull

as I am booting I see acpi=off and noapic beside kernel

seems pretty arrogant in my opinion

lol

seriously....
I woudn't be nagging in here quite so much if they still had them

seriously just shut up and go install ukanuba

well, you can always netboot if you dont have a cdrom
dvdrom even

Shihan, tried it... the way out network is set up is pretty locked down

oh wait, eukanuba is dog food, I men ubuntu
mean

well, the other option is usb external device boot

you don't want to be running fedora, so no matter what you are going to bitch forever

i'm trying to get that ordered

just shut up, we don't care

EvilBob, do you ever go away?

no, been here for years

lol... WELL, if you can get to a point where you are running anaconda, theres 5 options...

damn

plug a dvd into a box running a webserver or nfs... etc
nix, when your in there, can you see /etc/grub.conf?

yeah
i'm looking at it now

Shihan, four lines up, that was for me?

acpi=off and noapic is there

yeah...

Shihan, throwing the dvd into another server - even my own laptop is an option... how do I go about that? on both ends?

just remove acpi=off or is there a way to duplicate that kernel entry without the acpi option?
ujust remove acpi=off or is there a way to duplicate that kernel entry without the acpi option?/u

somebody call me when it's over

EvilBob, so far i think Shihan has helped me more than you did altogether, so I don't think the spork is necessary.

nix... ok.. this is gunna be fun, you can edit grub.conf, can you paste your into http://pastebin.ca

that computer doesnt have a net connection

hmmm.. ok.. one tick

yeah spork feeding is not my specialty, not my fault you can't even be bothered to read the install guide or use google at all. not to mention you are getting PAID for the work you expect us to tell you how to do.

basically at the end of the kernel line it has acpi=off noapic rhgb quiet

theres a couple of boot images in the dvd that can be used...
ok, take a look at this: http://pastebin.ca/634033
i've added a second boot option with acpi not disabled

Shihan, would I want to install caudium or apache on my laptop, through the contents of the whole dvd in /var/www/html to start?

ok, thats what I was thinking, I didnt know exactly how it should be done

basically after that you need to run grub-install
yeah, so long as its got indexing turned on, your boot should be able to get to it

run grub-install?

mines usually "grub-install /dev/sda" for example

Shihan, after that, how do I start the install on the server?

lol

in your example you removed "quiet", does it matter because mine is acpi=off noapic rhgb quiet. Quiet is at the end of the statement and I'm not sure what it does or rhgb.

under images directory on the dvd, you should be able to boot one of those

anyone running compiz and vmware?

like, burn boot.iso or something like that
yeah, i only do that cause in those situations is good to see where it hangs

[nix]: the "quiet" tells it not to display as much info while booting

Shihan, i'd tried using boot.iso but I got stuck when I was trying to cofigure the network

"rhgb" tells it to display the shiny progress bar instead of text mode

what's a good mp3 engine to go with amarok?

Kylratix, use the xine backend

i understand that now, thanks

yum install amarok-extras-nonfree
or something like that

ah

Shihan, the reason I can't figure it out is b/c the systems have dynamically assigned IP's - i got confused there and couldn't find much documentation on it

Is it possible to map a joystick in Fedora as though it were a mouse?

nice, works like a charm. thanks

Kylratix, you're welcom
hmm welcome*

what command do I type to extract a .zip file?

unzip file

you mean like unzip it?

yes yes
ok great

whao, theres a lot going on, but its not loading

that shouldnt be a problem, so long as you know the ip adddress of the webserver you put the dvd into you should be fine
hmmm.. im not sure you have many options left to be honest... if acpi causes the things to hang on startup... what hardware is it?

gateway 600X
i keeps showing ata1 and ata2 soft resetting port
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit: line 946: /bin/usleep : Input/output error

oh, switch off!
theres really not alot of info i can see about the gateway 600's, an im afraid acpi is beyond my abilities to debug

anyone have any problems with the nvidia drivers?

oh well, Fedora was fun while it lasted, any other distro's you think are worth trying?

they worked until i rebooted
before i even ran an update

i have been a redhat/fedora man most of my time... but, i was impressed with ubuntu *nod nod*
kylr, you using the livna drivers?

thanks for the help, I was hoping anything other than ubuntu or suse, hehe

lol, no prob, sry couldnt be more help... i suspect tho that you'll come up against the same issue tho

what has happened, because acpi worked fine in FC6

thats a dam good question, might be worth a fedora forum post though... it may just be a kernel version thing too

ok, in FC6, acpi worked with no problems at all for me on the same computer, but ever since I decided to install a fresh F7 the acpi has to be disabled for my computer to boot and work, I also found out that I didnt need to have "noapic" in the boot option either
Now in F7 the only option I have is acpi=off and it works like a charm, if I remove that its all down hill, lol. But like I said it worked fine in FC6
thanks for all the help and I still really like F7 so I'll post in forums about this and look at some other distros in the meanwhile

gin0, :**

Does the live CD have acpi enabled or does that not even apply to the live CD?

tatica, o/

nix, np, best of luck
i think its disabled on the CD
actually, im not sure

when I use the live CD the screen actually goes off
like it should

i thought that when acpi was disabled it dropped back to apm...

?

apm was the predecessor to acpi


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