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WebDragon, drunk-vision
then you can shout "YOU CALL THIS STABILITY?"
*wibble*
i've seen Fedora 8 on a few webpages, i never read anything about it though... somehow on a driver site i saw the Fedora 8 drivers section..
and besides, even if do get the official values from acer its no guarantee that it's correct. basically you have normal "crt" timings and vesa reduced timings.
acer haha, no wonder
what package is cvt from ?
is there even a f8t1 yet?
http://www.uruk.org/~erich/projects/cvt/ xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.1.1-47.10.fc6
oooh processor temp got up to 82F
gtf and scanpci but no cvt
not part of FC5 I suppose
ok. its in FC6 at least and F7. I guess FC5 was too early for cvt.
maybe -- what's the full path to the program?
/usr/bin/ ?
mighta been in a different package from extras
yeah. and I can't find it on FC4. but no FC5 around
cvt is part of xorg-x11-server-Xorg on fedora 7
Not yet; the freeze for F8-Test1 is scheduled for July 24.
See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/8/Schedule for more info.
oh great. so now we get pepole running in here wondering where to get F8
back to playing OMF
yeah codergeek42 I was just reading that
its pretty much what I thought
F8? Rawhide?
Did they get rid of the balloons in F8?
same thing at this point.
my rawhide VM still has them.
good night;o
no AndyCap I was referring to XcercaX 's comment above
I like the balloons
get rid of the balloons? no way.
and I was refering to t1 coming out soon.
Why not come up with something more original....
its another month aint it?
http://pastebin.com/d77a549a6
oh I see what I did
forgot -lm
the ideal theme would be a visual play on the word that "f8" sounds like. don't know how you'd capture that though.
can someone look at my grub.conf to tell me why it dont work
something about infinity and fate
# field rate 59.88 Hz; hsync: 64.67 kHz; pclk: 119.00 MHz
Modeline "1680x1050_60.00_rb" 119.00 1680 1728 1760 1840 1050 1053 1059 1080 +HSync -Vsync
that's what I came up with once I got it to compile properly
http://pastebin.com/d
http://pastebin.com/d30615577
kRiMe8, what messed it up? it's out of order and missing title and root lines
ukRiMe8, what messed it up? it's out of order and missing title and root lines/u
and now, fudging the bell-curve completely, we have Blondi by Natali from Russian Dream vol.1
zcat idk
zcat how do i fix it?
heh, is that my amarok_xchat script without the extra bells?
WebDragon; me? i typed it...
http://www.webdragon.net/miscel/amarok_xchat.py
actually i can't stand script kiddie IRC clients
WebDragon, extra bells?
like /quit as every key
see above url
j/k j/k
thats the one i got
yeah I wrote that
heh
ohhh, clever boy
so what bells am i missing?
knowing jack shit about python at the time too
oh i completely missed that, WebDragon.
you meant cruiseoveride, not me.
i had to remove certains char's from it in FC7 something to do with unicode this/that dont know
ui had to remove certains char's from it in FC7 something to do with unicode this/that dont know/u
strange, unicode should work perfectly on F7 considering it works on FC5
and I have that exact script on my xchat for F7 too
yes it worked on fc5 and fc6
FC4 - whats the best method to upgrade php on here?
but not on fc7
you using gnome-xchat perhaps ?
huh?
ok guess not
different apps
in xchat type /exec -o env |grep LANG
gnome-xchat looked promising for about a day
FC4 has reached its End-of-Life long ago; if you really want to continue using it (highly not recommended), you'll need to do that manually, as no more repository updates for it will happen.
heh
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
hm you should be getting UTF-8 just fine
codergeek42, k...I tried a configure/make/make install of php and get errors on the new libphp.so
libphp5.so that is
kRiMe8, how can you not know?
gives me an error in the console, when i try to load it, i removed the heart char, and a few other things and it worked
bgives me an error in the console, when i try to load it, i removed the heart char, and a few other things and it worked/b
then you need to do some diagnostics to find out why it's not working
is chillin' to [(/home/shared/audio/Peter_Tosh_-_Bush_Doctor_-_1978/02_-_Pick_Myself_Up.mp3) (192) (3:58)]
hey nice music notes
couldnt care less as long as it worked
heh well the underlining and bold ya coulda left in
zcat try2fix someone else's f@ckup
9jkd"
keep*
i see the bold and underlying
or changed them fancy quotes to normal ones
i dont see it on yours
no conspiracies?
I particularly like the "unicode dunno wtf this char is either" character : ý
" (2122) is also useful
«» (AB and BB)
zcat; in windows you can alt+numpad combinations to output a unicode character. is there anything like that for GNOME?
AndyCap, ? ...
you cant do it on the fly?
lame
thanx zcat
you know, like wingdings NYC: http://swfoundry.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/nycwingdings.jpg
AndyCap, oh the eye and pentagram...
"Basic DOS 6.22 boot disk" Please, someone pm me
one is probably available online somewhere as an image
i don't have any windows machine here right now.
DaHood, freedos.org
tommy, but i cannot locate one
I'm scared to ask, but WHY!
I remember a site but ...
zcat, i want to make bios upgrade on a really old mobo. i don't risk with anything other than dos 6.22
http://www.putergeek.com/downloads/ unzip, dd, go
can anyone remind me how to start a 3D app with DRI support if I have Xgl running?
DaHood, bootdisk.com if you don't care about free
AndyCap, thanks
freedos is safe to use
DaHood, dont most mobo manufacturers provide a boot program for bios/firmware upgrades?
zcat, this is about dos i don't think anyone will sue me because i am forced to use this stuff.
you put it on a cd (or floppy, heh)
and ifyour mobo cannot boot of a cd its time to geta new one
i think floppies are making a come back
chrismon, yes, but i didn't have an image
Any mobo can boot off cd
haha
even a 386
cruiseoveride, that would not cover "any"
and not all 386 mobos will
not all 486 either
not even all pentium
show me one that cant
true dat
cruiseoveride, they're all in the garbage dump a frew miles from my home, sorry
otherwise i'd mail them to you
if it can boot off ide, it can boot off cdrom
uh
bollocks.
hahah
but that's to be expected from you I guess
haha
cruiseoveride, you know that CD-ROM drives were not always IDE?
well i had a cdrom drive in ...1994 it was scsi
(and there are other issues too heh)
how do i find what block my root fs is
no go
if I comment out the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines that I had to add in the xorg.conf and put in the ModeLine I got from cvt I get back down to 640x480 again
What vid card?
AndyCap, at the putergeek site how am i supposed to use the .exe files? Unfortunately i don't have a windows machine near me at the moment and it's late at night
AndyCap, can you provide some more help please?
Asus V7m-266 mobo with GF2 MX chipset built in
you can't lose the H and V sync lines. but they don't have to do more than cover the hsync and vsync that's in the modeline
you mean nforce2
there we go again.
in the xorg.conf it says that to use ddc, I need to comment those out
Are you using the nvidia drivers?
thought you said ddc didn't work. :P
already told you how.
I couldn't get away from having those damn H/V sync lines
and there was no way for me to determine what they were supposed to be since there was no hard copy documentation on what the actual values for this display are
these numbers are PURE guesswork:
HorizSync 30.0 - 83.0
VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0
thats will give you 1280x1025 at 75Hz
AndyCap, aha. now i got it. unzip image.exe and voila
AndyCap, thanks
WebDragon, are you using the official nvidia drivers
no, just 'nv'
hi
should be enough, but wont hurt to use the nvidia drivers
with those numbers and no modelines I get 1680x1050 on this display
look in the legacy section on the nvidia site
22" widescreen flat panel on which ddc no workie
at 60Hz sure
ddc must work at some level then.
but my point is that there was no way for me to find out what those numbers should be since there was no hardcopy documentation stating them
if someone else with a similar display size hadn't come up with them I'd still be stuck at 640x480
acer website?
acer'
acer's documentation does NOT have the HV values on it
acer is really cheap stuff fyi
I googled like crazy when I first got this thing because I was PISSED
it also arrived without a single dead or stuck pixel
and didn't cost me an arm and a leg
haha
so, I'm happy with it
3 year warranty too
no complaints here
got flash?
Flat screens are like sound systems, some people 'think' they have good ones, rich folk buy 'expensive' ones, but only a handful of people actually have 'good' ones
so if I put this modeline after the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines:
Modeline "1680x1050_60.00_rb" 119.00 1680 1728 1760 1840 1050 1053 1059 1080 +HSync -Vsync
do I need to change the Screen subsection Display Mode to read:
Modes "1680x1050_60.00_rb" "1680x1050" "1440x900"
?
and 'good' is not the same for all uses, applications or situations
that res is a little wide, is your screen wide?
if you want to use that modeline, yes.
22" widescreen :: acer AL2223W -- look it up on newegg.com
ok. testing it now
Cannot open root device "VolGroup00/LogVol00" or unknown-block(0,0)
haha
can someone help me correct this^
gross
where are you?
load screen i get a kernel panic
boot up the recovery disc
k
its part of the dvd too
the joys of lvm
I love the way you can put pictures onto folder icons in gnome
so cool
but my main point was that you can grab the hsync and vsync from the cvt timing. and a modeline if the x server doesn't know that resolution already
Got Lag?
que?
ah, he left
should i mount the instaltion with chroot?
yeah few minnutes ago
LOL
kRiMe8, try
it loaded
Bob the builder, Booooohb
Ok ?? That is all
sendmail the shites
It's the shizzle when it works.
kRiMe8, did you change your config recently, to cause this? new kernel etc..?
macro compiling man
postfix is for gurls
yes new kernal
fedora kernel?
and i had to redo the grub.conf it was all messed up
sendmail has the highest concentration of code crack of all applications available.
i got a sample one from zcat now i just need to figure out how to make it work
can i see the one zcat gave you
actually give both, your current one too
http://pastebin.com/d1b63370b
current
ok, so I dropped in the ModeLine and specified ONLY that ModeLine for the Modes section and it works
somewhat better
so do you have flash?
kRiMe8, line 13, put a space after initrd
but even CVT would have left me in the dark as to what to place under HorizSync and VertRefresh
as in the browser plugin?
yes.
yep
ok
current for Linux from adobe's site
kRiMe8, and try boot it, with just that change
no. VertRefresh needs to cover 60Hz. and Horizsync needs to cover the HorizSync cvt tells you
http://tft.vanity.dk/
cruiseoveride ok
kRiMe8, corrected one http://pastebin.com/m78e2881e
g'night all
you wish frozty_sa
how so EvilBob?
g'unite
gun ite
guni te
gunit e
gunite
just saying that the chances that ALL of us will have a good night are pretty slim
c'mon man
dont be so pesa....
so thanks for wishing for us
oh...but then I'm an optimist!! :-p
lol
good luck frozty_sa
well I'm glad to see someone liked my script
(:
well, EvilBob, I wish you a good night, and I'm going to bed now (01h40 am local time)
see ya all later today
interesting
WebDragon, yeah, i troll all over the place with it, the guys in ##windows just love it
haha
rofl
Is there a known memory leak in the kernel or driver module for the Nvidia Quadro NVS 120 or 110 video cards? WHatever is stock in Fedora 7
dinner time
so how was the pixelmapping on VGA?
not sure I understand what you mean
for this kernel, 2.6.21-1.3228-fc7
if you choose pixelmapping in the menu (top middle)
ah one sec
pixelmapping
cruiseoveride thank you it loads now
yes.
looks fine -- no moire
that's good then.
kRiMe8, hey no worries, i time will come when I will call upon you for help, but for now, just enjoy the party
not all auto config monitors get it quite right. :P
hmm. i need to find a $300 laptop with built-in, linux-supported wifi
suggestions anyone?
3 cheers for the acer AL2223W then !
buy 3 100 dollar laptops
wat?
WebDragon|away; i am impressed with Acer. good call!
sorry, that was for downhillgames .
i hear a birdie... chirp chirp cheep cheeep cheep
I spent months researching before deciding on which monitor to get
AndyCap; my cousin, for college
asked a LOT of people around here who had monitors
WebDragon|away; LAPTOP :P not monitor haha
then watched newegg for price issues
tigerD man
eggs are for humpty dumpty
f TD
this is a monitor on my desktop
not an acer laptop
i like acers for laptops for sure
we just threw out like 10x 22inch crts today
cruiseoveride; does your back hurt? :P
haha, no way i told them to throw it out
nice
$400. this is going to be fun
for what?
acer laptops on newegg
downhillgames, spend a little more and get the cheapest dell inspiron. then at least you can replace it when it breaks.
good God if you would shut up for just a minute you would know what someone else was talking about
zcat; my cousin said $300. knowing him he means $150 up to $250
bzcat; my cousin said $300. knowing him he means $150 up to $250 /b
EvilBob; if anyone is shutting up it's me! er... yeah! rawr!
downhillgames, maybe your cousin doesn't have a good price expectation, unless he means old & used?
zcat; used isn't an issue, but yeah... he's kinda lowballing
Which file do I need to backup before I try and install a video driver? Xconfig?
zcat; but i'm his "computer genious cousin" :P
you might also check for the ASUS name in addition to Acer
EvilBob; can't say i've had experience with them but sure, thanks.
./etc/X11 dir?
i didn't even know there were "ASUS laptops"
Yeah not bad at all, I got one recently after some clients had good luck with them
i like ASUS motherboards
finally
EvilBob; the prices look kinda steep. i'll check ebay *cringe* and some other sites
yeah was not sure waht they had on the low end
go on ebay and buy a labtop instead
what's a labtop?
all things beautiful, old mobo's bios has been upgraded from an ancient version to an almost-ancient version, but it still does not want to see the 200GB hard drive. anyway
thanks all for the help
a spelling error.
mine is not low end by any stretch of the imagination
EvilBob; if you want to say which one just go head. my desktop smokes it
if you're lucky not as many bidders
is it me or is the f7 released version of k3b much better
the skin is differnt for one, but the actual usage is just better
detects dvds n stuff faster
Melio, debatable
Melio; i can't express how many times i say that to myself when using F7. "wow, this is working easier than it used to"
well oddly. it is
compared to what?
sdodson, fc6 same box
FC6 for me
ebay - where people pay 80% - 120% of the new price, for old junk.
I coulda had old libs or something
bang for the buck the laptop I got would be tough to beat. 4 Gigs Ram, 160 Gig 7200 rpm SATA HDD, Core 2 Duo, 14.1" wide LCD
if you do that's your own lookout
I'm having an interesting problem... for some reason yum dependancies arent checking dependancies of dependancies as they used to do
you were expecting regression?
who knows. it's just better
zcat; how do you think i could afford that new pc? haha
sdodson, I wasnt expecting anything.
change progressivly on minor things. but not stuff like k3b :p
if I wanted to write opensource, would C++ be the best language to do it in?
specificly gui based applications
do you know C++?
nope
$1530 shipped
probably gonna have to learn C first
then no.
I know a little about objects and headers
but that's the extent. very little
EvilBob; $1,200 shipped. retails over 2g
EvilBob; i know people
shold I just learn perl or something?
Melio, i'd suggest python (and pygtk for the gui)
i'd probably give python or perl if you're so inclined a go. maybe even the new love people have for ruby is ok
Melio; i was just gonna say that... python looks fun and easy... let alone useful
pygtk is what gets used in fedora. there's WX and Qt interfaces for python, perl as well
does anyone know which file I need to backup before I install the NV driver from nvidia? Is it the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
i hope nobody minds (why should you, really) but i'd like to state 1 more time... yum install firestarter
it is EASILY the best ifconfig/netstat/iptables GUI out
Melio, pygtk is also what the official bittorrent client uses (was wx previously iirc)
ok
sorry, easiest to use over "best"
I'm gonna grab some books on python then
does python connect to sql hosting pretty decent?
Melio; honestly i haven't the time to go to the library to look for books. if you find useful titles let me know ^_^
yum install pygtk2 and then run /usr/share/doc/pygtk2-2.10.4/examples/pygtk-demo/pygtk-demo
downhillgames, msg me with your aim/yahoo ect.. I'll add you to my secure linux web hosting geek squad list
Melio; 1337.
what is the standard key to wake up on suspend?
is that a BIOS setting?
usualy yes
wake on anything events are bios
is there a PC default?
nuonguy, I suppose it's differnt for each bios
on my laptop, it seems to be the power button, but on my desktop, that seems to be restart
and there are many breeds
k
I'll hafta reboot and look at what the BIOS says
thanks, Melio
hmm, looking around, doesn't look like the soundcard compatibility matrix knows about Nvidia's "High Definition" audio chipset -- has anyone heard any rumors about it working with Linux?
bhmm, looking around, doesn't look like the soundcard compatibility matrix knows about Nvidia's "High Definition" audio chipset -- has anyone heard any rumors about it working with Linux?/b
ok, any reason why codecs wouldnt work even if they're installed?
i even went the hard way of untarring everything to /usr/lib/codecs
ok, well that was actually easier than yum, but harder to manage
i dont understand
yum
ok, well that still doesnt solve my problem....
what codecs?
hello i have a window open where i am editing menu.lst and it wont let me save it because its read only. how do i get around this?
ilovefedora; open as root. look into setting up "sudo" for your user. www.fedorasolved.org has an article on it in "post install"
can't miss it.
downhillgames, any, the only codec that seems to be operating normally is the mp3 plugin, yeah, i feel a little dirty for using "illegal" codecs, but meh.... no other codec seems to be working
and i've installed them all, manually and through yum
When using the repair console, how can I mount a USB drive?
_Centauri_; do you have the Livna repo installed and enabled?
downhillgames, yes
_Centauri_; GNOME or KDE?
downhillgames, i use both, but atm i'm using gnome
_Centauri_; yum install gstreamer-plugins-ugly gstreamer-plugins-bad
done and done, doesnt work
then you've managed to botch something up in your quest for codecs
what app are you attempting to play MP3s with?
I tried xine instead of gstreamer, works greaet
except no codecs
Or... more to the point, when in repair console, how do I know which device to mount to mount a USB drive? lsusb?
except mp3
doesnt matter which program i use, they all seem to have the same problem, mplayer, xine, amarok
stormzen; fdisk -l can say
_Centauri_; when you say manually you mean......... what?
ha-ha, downhillgames. Thanks kindly.
stormzen; /me doesn't understand
untarring the mplayer codec pack into /usr/lib/codecs, and then linking /usr/lib/win32, etc...
thanks VileGent. one more window on my desktop cube and i'll cry
sudo save
VileGent; Southern_Gentlem linked me there previously but i haven't the will or the need for doing so
all i have bound is...
for people who ask if their $900 BEAST will run Compiz Fusion
VileGent... ahh... i missed the /usr/local/lib/codecs dir... that could do it
interestingly enough even when i was using xine for example, i even set it to use the dir i know the codecs are in though... still no luck, but let me tinker more
i honestly think i'm missing a dependancy somewheres
nope, still no luck
mplayer seesm to work fine here with the win codecs from the all codecs tarball unpacked to /usr/lib/codecs in spite of the docs which say otherwise there is no /usr/local/lib/codecs here
hmm.. well it doesnt matter, its not working
i think my yum is janked or something
because i had to manually track down some dependencies in amarok when i installed it, which peeves me slightly
_Centauri_, rpm -q livna-release
then again, it could be this computer, it was underwater....
livna-release-7-2
what dep was missing
a few libs, i dont recall off the top of my head.. lemme see if my console history still has 'em
i just yum installed amarok with no deps
Why is the choice made for a proprietary mp3 decoder? I realize it is patent-encumbered, so you cannot put it in Fedora, but that's no reason to direct users to a proprietary codec download instead of a free mp3 codec download.
missing
yeah, thats what i did on my lappy. but on my desktop, it didnt work well at all, nor did blender,i know i had to install freealut, and a few other deps
libdvdread was one for amarok
louis we do send the users to livna repo
_Centauri_, i smell conflicting repos
VileGent, all i have is livna installed
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureCodecBuddy
its a fresh install of F7
the only thing i added was livna
_Centauri_, i just installed it and it works for me
well thats very helpful.... sorry, this is very frustrating, especially since all my other fedora boxen are quite easy to manage
_Centauri_, i understand that
_Centauri_, 32 or 64
32
ah!
I didn't read that page through
i wish xine could give me some output as to why it cant read the codecs i have
reading is good
thanks for help earlier, guys.
ahh..... mplayer now works ok
but xine isnt, even though xine is looking at the same directory mplayer does
http://rafb.net/p/gmuCjO18.html
you're launching xine from the command line and it doesn't tell you?
VileGent, are you supporting yourself? lol
nope, it is silent, and it just comes up with a dialog box, and it says 'start playback anyway?'
really descriptive
but, at least mplayer works
maybe there's a debug info switch?
possibly
"yum list xine\*" see what you do not have installed
I installed everything....
you might want xine-lib-extras-nonfree
have it
i kinda know what i'm doing, i have actually done this before, but this time, its not working as it should, which is why i'm here
speaking of codecs, is there something available that will decode dolby digital plus? I ripped an HD-DVD movie, but have no way to hear the sound properly (it's ddp)
yeah just when you THINK you KNOW what you are doing... OMG Daylight!
heh.. got hacked last week. It was kind of like that...
hehe.. yeah, well, i dont actually think my problem is with the codecs, i really think its with yum not providing all the dependencies i need, which is kinda hard to track down..
or the battleaxe smacks you with the cast iron skillet
well....
try cleaning yum.
SAM_theboy!
Let me just say thx you all for nothing
uninstalling and reinstalling.
Hey BOBBY
long time no see
SAM_theman, your welcome
IT Worked Guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hi all
j/k
you are welcome, nothing is always free!
I finally got fc7
no way
I was just kidding
no such critter
ok.. interesting
do you guys know where xine-lib-extras-nonfree puts its codecs?
_Centauri_, rpm -ql xine-libs-nonfree
rpm -ql package
What THE %&@%&*@
435 M
interesting
F7 just came out!!!!
lol
it took all day
just to download the fc7 dvd
o well
SAM_theman, so do the openoffice updates later
wow... interesting
http://rafb.net/p/N4yibD41.html
ok... nevermind, i think i might have found it
heh
no... maybe not
!@#$ers
weee
reole
:d
ok... wierd.. anyone get what is going on from the output i listed?
because i'm confused
WEEE
you know UT3 is comming out for linux
SAM_theman you know warsow?
ehh
UT has always had a linux version
whjats that?
OO
SAM_theman an almost-free FPS
I wish ETQW was for linux
since before you were born
hey
LOL
17 years ago
EvilBob technically, you are correct.
http://community.enemyterritory.com/forums/showthread.php?p=63146
whoo hoo
SAM_theman just play warsow, you goof
let me get a link
got it
hey is it Multiplay?
duh
otherwise I wouldn't urge you to play a game against me
ahhh
ok, lets say i just got a free computer, that just happened to be underneath 3 feet of water... now lets also assume this same computer, I'm actually using at the moment, could something have janked itself up to the point where it will handle everything well, but sometimes it causes wierd
computational errors, like say... yum not checking every dependency? Its about the only theory i have on any of this
you got MSN
SAM_theman Nope. I've got IRC though, what IRC server can I find you on?
#maya #linux-gamers.net #fedora
I was kidding.
anyone here using samba on fedora 7 ?
dc905 you still didn't get it to work? : P
dc905 me neither
Don't forget #CidsOnKrakc
ok you know what
LOL
Louis4920:: its weird .. i CAN access my windows computer from linux.. but when i goto my windows machine -- it find the f7 shares and folders... but can access them.. seems to think they dont excist
even stranger is the linux machines cant access its own samba shares :P
dc905 oh.. they show up fine for me. But I'm not allowed to access them.
Louis4920:: sounds the same!
Oh SAM_theboy, don't worry you're OK
muahha
hey I am going to oc my CPU
Louis4920:: no one has been able to help ya eh?
from stock 2.2 to a 2.9GHZ
dc905 nope ;;
OC is so 1999
eheeheee
well I just brought it back
how do i install fedora using grub
back in the day when you could push a 533 - 850 and push an 850 - 1200
wow
450
yup
that 50% gain was awesome
u have CS ?
http://www.google.com/search?q=fedora+grub+install
Sam_theman I don't play that kind of crap.
hey
33% was the best I could get with regular air cooling
ilovefedora, http://fedorasolved.org/Members/zcat/draft/installing-fedora-using-pxe-images
is there an app to load music on zune for fedora
kRiMe8:
yes
ilovefedora http://www.google.ca/search?q=fedora+grub+install
www.apple.com
Muabahahaa
Hi Kat
it should just pop up as a usb
(68/222):
Combine with the official installation guide - minimal installation something
what u play?
ET ?
SAM_theman How about warsow? -_-;;
thats it....
Also conversation like this to PM please.
i just tried running the 2.6.22.1-27 kernel that came out today and iwl3945 is failing because "Could not read microcode: -22"
hi EvilBob
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL3VWom_T6Q
I am using that kernel with my 4965 with out issue
EvilBob, thats good to hear but doesn't help explain when its failing for me
Yeah I hear you
EvilBob, you're using iwl3945 and not ipw3945?
iwl4965, It could be that we are not using the identical kernels, I am on x86_64 got my kernel from the koji builder
i'm on the stock 32 bit kernel
fedora stock that is
Yeah I had enough of ndiswrapper and grabbed the -27 kernel hot out of the oven
had only been built like 20 minutes earlier
ahhh
where is the LSB okayed location to put a webapp?
you could try grabbing the newest ucode for your card
anyone here like FPS's ?
I do but they are not fun with a 2d graphics driver
hey Moxie
bobby what card
anyone know where to look at how to compile a custom kernel?
yeah
hola
google
an easy link maybe :P
google is obscure
GeForce 8400m G
I know
Surfer666, tldp.org
EvilBob, newer than whats in iwlwifi-firmware-2.14.3-2 ?
WHAT
8400 is great
thats new
Surfer666, so is your question
thats better than what I have
It's mobile :-D
maybe, check intellinuxwireless.org or what ever
its a pretty straight forward question... how do I compile 2.6.22.1-27 with some customizations :P
EvilBob We need Nouveau ;;
I need anything more than vesa to suport my card
http://linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/202/1/
http://intellinuxwireless.org/iwlwifi/downloads/iwlwifi-3945-ucode-2.14.4.tgz
I don't even care if the driver has 3d at this point
as long as it does not taint my kernel and works I will be happy
Bobby u have a DX10 card
EvilBob "taint kernel" ?
you mean the blob? I would prefer not to let a blob taint anything on my system at all.
no closed source crap
u have a lot of anger
where can I get 2.6.22.1-27.fc7.src.rpm?
rpmfind.net
FOUND MY SMB PROBLEM!!! :P
your favorite mirror
Surfer666 If you are not up to the task, perhaps google is!
dc905 really?!!
can't find anything :|
I already googled.
Louis4920:: hope so.. when i try to smbclient -L into my local machine.. i get "NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE"
now to fix it
Well, what I did was create an account that can access the share
then add that account to samba
and then try to access the share as that account - but I still get DENIED'D
Louis4920:: hmmm.. let me dig
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/packages/kernel/2.6.22.1/27.fc7/src/kernel-2.6.22.1-27.fc7.src.rpm
Bobby I am going for a 3.4 GPA this year
hope you get it
but mainly 3.5
11th grade
I pulled a 4.0 the twoyears I was in tech school 13 years ago...
heeheh
OMG I feel old
thanks EvilBob
Everybody Tells me " Are u sure your black"
the fool that askes me that I'll stick em
you might be interested in http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=11571
*I mean the next person who says that , I'll stick em'
since 9th grade
Louis4920:: if i do a -N at the end it lets me in fine ?
linville updated the wireless bit in that one
my teacher friend uses fedora
EvilBob, what does that mean?
Louis4920 really?
eh
dc905 really?
the changelog is not real descriptive
EvilBob, yeah I kinda found that out
oh..
Hey you know they have 3d enable of XEN guys
but U have to download it
I will not have time to test it until about 10 PM local time Sunday
not xen the program
Louis4920:: yup.. this is weird
maybe i need to configure a guest account ?
you can play ut04 on xen
Up until the point I installed nvidia drivers, Fedora 7 recognized my monitor and used 1680x1050, but now it doesn't. I've tried modlines, etc. but can't get that resolution now. Could someone help me?
remove the nVidia driver
Isn't there another solution besides removing the driver?
You asked for help, I gave it... now you are being picky?
LOL
how did you install the crap driver?
Yes I am. LOL.
I installed the one from the livna repo.
OK, and you made sure your card is supported by the driver?
I just went by reading on the Internet as to the driver to install for nvidia. My card is an Nvidia Geforce FX5200 (Dell). Where do I check to see what the driver supports?
like on here http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html
http://fedorasolved.org/video
My card is on the supported list.
lucky you
try changing your xorg.conf to use the nv driver
I assume you want the 3d support of the crap driver
Ok, I can give that a try. I just want to get to the 1680x1050 native resolution.
but getting things working and backing up the config at known points might help you troubleshoot it
IF you can not get it working at that resolution with the nv or vesa drivers file a bug
WB bitchkat
EvilBob, seems to work with the newer microcode
rock on, file a bug for a version bump
now i just need an fglrx driver that works
Ok, Thanks
I have not tested the rnge of my wireless card since I moved to the iwl driver, BRB
range
how does one download a file with links?
or lynx
d
mutk, thanks
man?
--;
LOL, my 2 year old is outside riding one of those razor scooters
ahhh. baby's first scab.
razors slice.
hi i am http installing fedora and its asking me for a web site name and fedora directory what do i put
a web site name and a fedora directory
ilovefedora, the link i gave you explains
use "wget -c"
where'd you download the boot cd from?
SAM_theman, doen't work well
would give the wrong filename
I downloaded my f7 dvd today with wget
its saying unable to retrieve
verify the path
what link?
A web Browser.
http://fedora.mirror.facebook.com/
/linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/images
am i entering it correctly
ilovefedora, http://fedorasolved.org/Members/zcat/draft/installing-fedora-using-pxe-images
ilovefedora, step 4
still coming up with errors saying unable to retrieve
When using a public mirror, you need to make sure to use the full, correct directory path, or it won't be found - the directory should end with "/os/".
it is
i think its coming up with an error because there is no internet connection
your reading comprehension sucks
lol
why
yeah doing osmosis installs should be a feature request for Fedora 10
I don't know, maybe more education would help.
"When using a public mirror, you need to make sure to use the full, correct directory path, or it won't be found - the directory should end with "/os/". Using the example mirror of "http://mirror.cc.vt.edu/pub/fedora/linux", the "Web site name"
part would be "mirror.cc.tv.edu", but the directory would *not* only be "/pub/fedora/linux". You have to drill down the mirror directories to find the correct full path with "/os/"
so what should website name be?
what are you talking about, i read the fucking script, i just said the problem is i am not connected to the net thats why it doesnt find the sites
website name should be "fedora.mirror.facebook.com"
maybe that mirror is crap
ok then you tell me what to put and i will tell you what it says
Fedora Directory should be "/linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/"
done exactly what you said and the response i get it Unable to retrieve http://fedora.mirror.facebook.com//linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/images/stage2.img
then try another mirror
hmm, yes, then it appears you have other problems. Sorry, I was just noting that what you mentioned to the channel is not what the directions mentioned.
check your netwoking
or in your case notworking....
haha
lol notworking .... funny! EvilBob that was funny
I try
Bobby wake me up when my updates are done
He forgot to install presto
to update 200+ packages
haha
I wold but you are not downloading from my mirror (thank God)
would
can i use any picture to change the sl=plash screen?
slightly OT, but is it possible to do passwd authentication from within php?
Stupid CUPS.
heh
I dislike CUPS anyway, but at least it could be packaged correctly.
you could just install the rawhide key
No, thank you... if I wanted to play that game, I'd still be running Debian Unstable.
no just install the key
the package was signed with the wrong key
You're implying that it won't get fixed.
no I'm implying that you could do something about it on a personal level
Hm, no actually it appears to have been corrected after an update.
EvilBob, it was a rotten apple
mwilson so out of date mirror the first time
Yeah, looks like it.
Gods, I don't want to build my own packages any more...
(18/145):
ahh...
Me time
So basically what I did today.. was download f7 dvd... took 5 1/2 hours
Not like it matters how long it takes to do it.
People always lose sleep over how long something takes to download.
0est took me about 2 to find a way to mount my
not me. i sleep *while* it's downloading
and around 6 the war was over
Mission Accomplished
yeah
I'm thinking of hiring a server just so building stuff doesn't take as long anymore
Exactly. I always find highly amusing all the "oh gods, find me the fastest mirror or I'll die" weenies.
heheh'
.de mirrors are faster
german
-_-
if i start it on a weeknight, it's got all night to download *plus* all day while i'm at work since i'm not going to do anything with it in the 5 minutes i have in the morning. so as long as it doesn't take 20 hours, i'm set.
grrr... stupid vim-ml
having a mirror here at home makes building stuff nice
how much will it cost?
In usd
having a mirror on my laptop makes building stuff anywhere possible
I've found I'm not going to die if I'm not running the bleeding edge, if I don't download stuff instantaneously, if I don't build my own PC's, etc, etc.
yeah. the only thing about the fedoras is they seem to die off quickly. like core 6 was always WAY behind with firefox. so i was always just installing the binaries... i like to at least keep that one reasonably up to date since i use it all the time. i do build my own PCs, but never get in a
huge rush. probably why i have enough pieces for a few extra PCs here right now. :p
I actually paid attention to the discussion re FF 1.5/2.0 in FC6... understood how little point there was in bothering with 2.0, aside from security updates, which 1.5 still has.
I don't use FF enough to care particularly about having the latest version.
yeah. just preference, i spose. since i know how to maintain all the binaries and stuff, it's ok with me. and i wasn't rushing for like release day downloads. i'll just check once in a while.
The only time I really bother with FF is when the author is incompetent, and the site doesn't degrade gracefully. Usually I use links2.
i'm one of those people that are probably often incompetent. :p i depend on firefox extensions like firebug.
Never saw the point to extensions, myself.
You must have never used them before. Extensions are great in FF.
You can make the program do what you want it to do.
firebug gives you a *lot* of debugging power. and there are other ones that are spiffy too. there's one that lets me measure pixel spaces within the browser (rather than taking screenshots), accessibility ones, all sorts of stuff.
Feh. I want it to render web pages.
the pixel spaces one sounds stupid, but when you have visual design people counting the pixels, then it saves a lot of time.
Where do I edit the boot menu ?
Then you are using a good choice. Links will do that all the time.
grub, or whatever it is.
And it discards all CSS, which is wonderful.
/etc/grub.conf
If that's what you want it to do then you got it!
thanks sir
FF allows you to not only discard the CSS files but also to make your own which is quite handy for those with accessibility issues.
No problem.
The web became much easier to use once I realized how little I cared what designers thought things should look like.
how do you tell what's important? i'm giving it a try, and it's making all the text look the same. :p
If you are going after text data then you have the perfect program.
"default=3" ... is that the entry that it loads by default, with the 1st being "0" ?
Define "important".
Default=3 means that your third entry is the default when you boot.
well, my fourth entry has been the default every time...
If you don't select one by the timeout timer then it will auto boot into that one.
like all the stuff that's normally in little text 'cause it's not important (copyright 2007) looks all the same. my eyes glazed over the second the page loaded. :p
Lookig at my grub.conf it appears that it does start counting at 0
ok
If it's not important, it shouldn't be there. The alternative is to assume the designer has a clue.
Since most don't, I don't see any reason to bother dealing with their attempts at "presentation".
Anyone ever tell you that you have a real cynical view at the world?
aren't you still depending on what the links people consider to be "presentation"?
Links makes no attempt to define presentation.
i like these sites where people have no idea what an alt tag means. "decoration"... sheesh.
i see tables and colors.
WinTV-PVR USB2 = radio works now -- thanks if anybody did something with mplayer, it's rockin!
Because that's what's in the HTML.
it's still presentation. and i have no idea why there's text here that's red. it's not red on the page.
www.csszengarden.com -- everything that's wrong with the web all rolled into one place
there's still presentation layer stuff here. you just find their decisions acceptable. and if that's what you want, i'm not trying to convince you to change.
haha. hasn't that site been out of date for years?
csszengarden is an excellent example of the right way to do the web
The right way to do the web is presentation over content?
I should hope you guys are using the p. layer for irc...
PRIVMSG #fedora :I should hope you guys are using the p. layer for irc...
so disable it.
actually, now that you've pointed it out, that's the page that's looked the best so far in links.
I should have to waste my time creating my own CSS to cure the disasters so-called "designers" create? Feh. Ignore it all.
it's simple, it's quick to read, and it doesn't have a bunch of junk blocking it all up, especially at the top.
i tried like news.google.com and news.yahoo.com and even groklaw (even though i know the idiot that runs groklaw doesn't have a clue)
So disable CSS all together.
guys...i installed the latest version of flash, yet firefox keeps telling me its missing, and refusing to show any flash content. any ideas?
d'oh. i have to run. the wife says time to go. mwilson: if you dig links, by all means stay with it. i don't want to sell you a new browser.
gbv22, 32 or 64
32
This is bad?
mwilson:i would think so
thanks
I wouldn't.
why
mwilson different strokes for different folks
Flash is hardly a necessary thing. How many sites that depend on flash for navigation are worth bothering with?
what is the preferred SELinux solution to allow access by both samba and apache to the same set of files?
oh ok, hmm...i needed to watch a video on youtube, so..i guess i need it
devhelp ##################### [103/440]
http://www.springfield-armory.com/
Never could understand why people think youtube is a big deal.
mwilson its like watching a train wreck you just have to watch it
its not a big deal really...just a good way to share videos i guess
omg, the dinosaurs still roam the earth -- some guy that says "that application isn't worth running because I disagree with the content, I'm just going to sit and say 'man flash'"
I just took a shower
I feel sexy
how bout you BOB :-D
Sitting outside with the neighbors
wow
Gods, that's a ridiculous web site.
where u live
someone watches too much BG
Minne-Snow-Da
Huh?
Big Game...
battlestar galactica
ahhh
u on your lappy?
yeah
Ok get down I am going to do a drive by
it's "god" vs. "gods"
To you it is.
what is it to you?
I find it much more likely that if there's one, there's more than one.
I said neighbors, not friends
interesting filmography
LOL
well who cares
i'm talking about the show ..
they both have "e" in them
i personally find that everyone and everything is "god" or "uni-force" or whatever you want to call it
an "energy"
weee...
Huh? Galactica got deadly dull and boring, haven't watched it in ages. I have no idea what you're talking about.
a little weird if ya ask me szec
wb f_newton
I'm not even going to bother buying the DVD's.
buy? heh
thanks
been here a while
off n on
well compiz fusion was updated... i need to reboot for other packages...
peace out
Oh, gee, let's have the obligatory "I'm cool, I'm a pirate" smirk now.
Reboot because a *window manager* got updated? Since when?
I hate shaving
SAM_theman, no thanks I freed willy earlier this evening
My chin always stings
You create this monstrosity?
2.1-1.fc7 yum-updatesd.noarch 0:3.2.1-1.fc7
Complete!
huh?
mwilson kagesenshi did
WHOO
Fc7 is updated
oh that site? no
Going to reboot
just shoot their pistols
I don't own any of their pistols.
weee
I got to install xchat
ok bedtime
whats the best program to use to keymap keys on your keyboard? Does fedora 7 have one already installed or do I nned to grab somthing like xbindkeys?
umm
like mute, unmute, internet ...
well power off when I hit the power button. shutdown -h now
But I want to asign that to the power button
hmmm
I do that within my BIOS
in xwindows it logs me off, the power button
same here
but in console it does nothing
wel lit sais unassigned/ And I am running level 3
I just wanted to know if there was a specific application in F7 that I could use or I have to google search and find one?
yup
google
try to go here
gnome apps
www.gnomeapps.com
well its kde :P
http://www.gnomefiles.org/
o ok
http://www.kde-apps.org/
man i love Static-X :/
the yum method from adobe loaded the flash player just fine
in case anyone is interested
yeah. the adobe repo is fine
man, i think my cable company has adjusted my cable connection, because it's slow as crap now
lol
like 7mb
robbins876; get your wallet ready for that service call
used to get upwards of 18mb
how much your getting now?
downhillgames, got them on speaker right now, i'm on hold
SAM_theman, like i said around 6-7mb
bit, not byte
robbins876; make groaning, frustrated noises when you hear them pick up :P
give em hell man
brb rebooting
what movie to watch...
i'm about to learn some python :P
Advent Children. Hackers 2: Takedown, Kingdom of Heaven, Oldschool or Transporter
ah Oceans Twelve too why not
Oceans Twelve!
whoo
wow
that was weird
brb
how can I get smbd to stop checking cusp?
cups*
wow nvidia is installed
omg F7 is crazy
I set all my nvidia settings on high and its taking the heat
no lagg
SAM_theman, is the wireless there yet?
for what ?
F7 & broadcom?
IDK
Hello!
I can not get the flash player to install on my system. I am running Fedora 7 x86_64 and Firefox 2.0.0.5 and trying to install the latest Flash Player. any ideas?
yeah, wait for them to make a x86_64 flash player.
man... I was hoping you wouldn't say that...
Voort, I was just like u
do we know if they are actually going to make one?
I cannot tell the diffrence between 64, 32
you can install firefox32 and install the 32 bit player
x86_64 flavors have been out for a while, no? why haven't they recompiled it for 64 yet?
kinda takes the fun out of having x86_64 running on my system but I think I may do that
install nspluginwrapper and the flash plugin
heh
hello all
does anyone know if the chipsets of the pci IDE ATA 133 cards are supported by the linux kernel? are things better than the SATA controllers?
um...
which chipset?
most IDE is supported, most SATA is supported
i don't know about ide controllers chipset. i just seek some info from people who may use such things
you have to respect the power of SELinux
DaHood; everyone uses them...
downhillgames, i mean ide controllers on pci cards
DaHood; then just look up yours or the one you want to buy.
pembo13_com, yeah, except when configuring your stuff. other than that, yes, it deserves some respect
thanks downhillgames
Hello
Please I need help about scripting
hiya
funny, i just opened yum for python stuff :P
for me it will be bash :-D
what do you want to do?
well I would like to execute two commands in the same time
ok
isn't it " & " ?
well that's for in a row...
?
like sudo updatedb && sudo locate python
no
that'll update the database then after, locate python
wha?
I want in the SAME time, not in the folllowing time
right
because ... well wait please i'm gonna paste my code
not here, I hope
there is no package that lets python talk with mysqld?
http://rafb.net/p/3VuvMz53.html
Please check :-)
downhillgames, sure there is
downhillgames, that's almost a silly question
pembo13_com; indeed. why can't i see any packages in yumex then?
downhillgames, cause it's in python by default
oh snap
sweet
alex[slx];
downhillgames, only MS languages tend not to have mysql support by default
pembo13_com; this makes sense somehow ty
downhillgames, no prob
downhillgames, however, there are wrappers, such as adodb, which are seperate
i have vnc server running, but i can't have any sound unless i actually log the computer in
tahpot, ok
how can i fix this? i never log the computer in as its a server
hey man
how's it going?
tahpot, sorry, don't use vnc
alex[slx]; how've you been?
pretty good
alex[slx]; care for /msg?
not at all, go for it!
it's not a vnc problem, its a fedora problem
basically the sound card is not available until i login, how can i fix this?
if it's a server, why do you need the sound card?
Yeh good question.
its a music server connected to my stereo
oh ok
what desktop environment?
xfce, however it isn't logged in so its sitting @ gdm login screen
how can i get .jnlp working in firefox?
it just opens a new tab and ask to open and its keep repeating
if i ssh in and use mplayer or mpg321 the sound device can't be found. however if i go to the machine, login and then ssh in and use mpg321 it works fine
is a pc with one HDD on a *pci* IDE ata133 controller able to boot? The motherboard is way too old
ed1t; do you have java installed properly? (www.fedorasolved.org or search www.fedoraforums.org)
www.fedoraforum.org sorry
anyone know any drive recovery/repair tools for ext3 besides fsck/e2fsck
there isn't one
tahpot; modprobe your driver?
didn't think so
via ssh perhaps
it's awesome to loose 250gb of data ..
how'd you lose it?
no idea
then are you sure it's gone?
DrNick; rm -rf /
you probably don't have permission to access the sound devices. normally you only get that permission when you login locally.
http://rafb.net/p/hMSFwr77.html
you tell me
ah that makes sense, so how can i give myself that permission always?
what kinda tools are there for creating graphical UIs for python...
what changed before things when wrong?
nothing
biz as usualy
something changed.
no
wxpython
gtk
nothing changed .. haven't even accessed it for several weeks
rather, PyGTK
ok, i mean some kinda app to help create
not something which python will use to bring it
glade?
to my python GUI
actually, I don't know
ok, in that intervening several weeks, did you upgrade any software?
ok thanks, you've put me on the right track now anwyay
see pam_console_apply, /etc/security/console.perms, etc.
nothing i take it thought i had one back in FC3
glade
or gazpacho
i'll check it out
ty
isn't QT better for GUI?
maybe it's all in presentation from the apps i've tried, but qtparted i like better than gparted, etc
downhillgames, mostly a matter of personal host opinion at this point
http://www.staikos.net/~staikos/whyqt/
i'm trying to install ndiswrapper and i get this error
311) present (alternate driver:
i want to remove bcm43xx-mac80211
is it supported by the kernel?
not sure
does it show up in the network manager?
no
pembo13_com; why can i just download and install QT if it has licensing fees?
i just want to use ndiswrapper
downhillgames, it has licensing fees for development of commercial products... _not_ for use of a qt app
aaah. so in order to sell i need to pay fees
downhillgames, depends.. .if you are selling it under a close source licence
GTK looks smoother and all that, but QT just looks nice... idk if that makes sense to anyone but me
pembo13_com; it's all FOSS stuff
downhillgames, gtk looks a bit macish
downhillgames, kde just looks like KDE imho
does anybody know how to just remove bcm43xx? completely
pembo13_com; KDE looks like s***
downhillgames, assumingg you can get some one to buy your FOSS stuff , as far as i know you still don't have to pa
there should be no buying
darkscript, you might be able to use modprobe.conf to block it
just GPL
darkscript, although i think you're better of just deleting or moving the .ko file
tried blacklisting it
didn't work
downhillgames, at that point gtk = qt
so it's all dev feel and/or look
GTK it is :P
darkscript, alias bcm43xxx off in modprobe.conf
thanks
Hi
I have Red Hat Linux
I don't know if it is genuine
How do I check
where did you get it? what release is it?
The InterWebs
OMG - if it's not "Genuine" we might have to turn you in for a reward.
Well I see it for sell at Fry's
$79
lol realbytecomputer
YOu are scaring me
NETWizz; you can just download Linux for free...
Could I go to jail
BUSTED! Mate - that's a PIRATE COPY OF REDHAT!
haha
Really?
really
No - just pullin yer leg
Linux and FOSS is all free
How do I solve it?
Any GNU/linux is free
Why do they sell it at Fry's then?
Solve what? you bought it - it's RH - it's yours.
NETWizz; to rip off uninformed people
Cuz they sell it with the manuals and stickers and whatnot...
NETWizz, What version does it say it is?
There hasn't been a boxed Red Hat product in quite some time.
DrNick; Gazpacho is nice
Says it is Fedora Core 4
on the Box
by Red Hat
Fedora Core 4 is dead.
Fedora 7 is out
Perhaps it's a book with a CD?
Really?
it's not even called "Fedora Core" anymore
How is it better?
really
I used to be able to get mini-boxed sets of RH from my newsagent for $20 a pop - RH9 was the last on the shelves but
It is a box
like a windows box
NETWizz; it's like 10 fold better
so FC4 is a bit old.
is the fedora upgrade process easy?
Fedora 4 was a nice system... I remember those days
I remember using 4 back in the testing stages
NETWizz; yeah... but you just installed, right? just reinstall with 7
good times
I didn't buy it
NETWizz; http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/
you dont NEED to
I played with it - but was using mostly MDV at the time - now have given up and gone back to RH (Actually, Fedora)
NETWizz; FREE. 100% FREE. FREE
open source
Does it have the NVIIDA driver
Just d/l the latest Fedora 7 and have a play - it's great fun.
NETWizz; you can easily add it, yes!
or can I install NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run
in the repos yes - there's the kernel mod for NVIdia in livna
NETWizz; nah. get Fedora 7
Does it allow me to install RPMs?
OR you can install it via the binary
All RH and Fedora is RPM based.
Will it compile out of hte box?
NETWizz; that .run? no. it overwrites a lot of files
Shore nuff!
O_O
Er...what?
Does it have GCC, and everythign to compile
where is a youtube video when you need one?!
and also does it come with the kernel headers?
Yes - by default it does
NETWizz; get Fedora 7
How does it compare with Ubuntu?
NETWizz; see what your desktop does...
i am now having regular kernel panics and i'm about to go crazy about it
I've used Ubie on test machines here - it's heaps better - more complete "out of the box"
Yes, it's a full blown linux distribution. For more information check out the website, http://fedoraproject.org all your questions will be answered there
Ubie?
NETWizz; this is what mine does: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ImW0-MgR8I
Okay
Ubuntu
any others
other than regular yum updates .. no
i mean .. there's no telling what software updated during those few weeks without going over all the software released through yum during that timeframe
I like ubuntu, i friggin hate how ubuntu == linux these days, that and their community is just about as attractive to me as a 1200lbs woman with herpes, and a room temperature IQ
and i really doubt that is the cause
realbytecomputer; Ubie? haha. i wanna use that now...
is that saying GPL? :P
considering there are 6 other hdds hooked up that all are doing fine
Ubuntu isn't more complete out of box... it's just easier to get to complete for idiots who can't google worth crap
or who can't listen to 244 people say "use livna"
Wow
I thoguht compiz was dead
I got the shittes with Ubuntu on the last go - on more than half the machines I tested it on here in the lab, it just borked in one way or another - not a straight install. I've had better luck with F7, F6, PCLOS and Mandriva - so Ubuntu got the "Boot Too"
I thought Beryl took over
/var/log/yum.log is delightfully lacking timestamps
Compiz ain't dead - it's changed into Compiz-Fusion. I use it here on the other workstation - it's a beaut.
well .. i don't think that will help sdodson
NETWizz; that never happened. they forked into 2 projects then merged back as compiz fusion
i don't think a yum update caused my hdd to fail
nm, I thought at one time the yum log lacked timestamps, it looks like it has them now
NETWizz; actually... it was Compiz then Compiz and Compiz-quinn, then Compiz and Beryl, then Compcomm, then Compiz Fusion :P
unless there is a reasonable idea as to how or why
can you use smartctl to read the smart data?
don't know .. never tried.. got a howto?
There's sources for compiz-fusion that are USABLE - but they're still very very alpha - but getting closer week by week. I think somewhere on the opencompisiting.org website someone's actually built RPM's for F7 - can't remember for sure - I just get the code and compile it myself daily
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